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Harry Beever Newbury 04 Feb 18 9.26am | |
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Originally posted by simonmdt
If this is the level of intelligence and debate offered up by the right of centre, then I can see exactly why smacking one of their poster boys is so appealing to peopel Oh while I'm on the subject of that piece of s*** Rees-Mogg, a 'man' happy to claims there is no justification ever for a woman to have an abortion? Even. And yet vile t*** is happy to invest in Kalbe Farma, a company whose drugs are responsible for over 2 miilion terminations a year. I'm proud to look elsewhere for my role models and ideology. You need to relax a little mate. You obviously don’t agree with his views but resorting to personal insults is the fastest way to lose an argument. I don’t agree with his quoted stance on abortion but it doesn’t make him a piece of s*** no more than it makes the pope a piece of s***. You and I think it’s the mothers right, he feels it’s the unborn child’s right, that’s unlikely to change but i’m not going to hate him for what he believes in unless he attempts to ban abortion in the UK which I think unlikely. The pharmaceutical company no doubt produces other drugs that benefit human health as well as those responsible for terminations so not black and white and I wouldn’t be in a rush to judge him over that.
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chris123 hove actually 04 Feb 18 10.04am | |
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Originally posted by Harry Beever
You need to relax a little mate. You obviously don’t agree with his views but resorting to personal insults is the fastest way to lose an argument. I don’t agree with his quoted stance on abortion but it doesn’t make him a piece of s*** no more than it makes the pope a piece of s***. You and I think it’s the mothers right, he feels it’s the unborn child’s right, that’s unlikely to change but i’m not going to hate him for what he believes in unless he attempts to ban abortion in the UK which I think unlikely. The pharmaceutical company no doubt produces other drugs that benefit human health as well as those responsible for terminations so not black and white and I wouldn’t be in a rush to judge him over that. I was not aware of this,but a quick google and it seemms this is an stomach ulcer drug, and there are side effects. And Rees Mogg has not played any investment role in Somerset Capital Management since becoming an MP in 2010. So the analysis and conclusion have little weight in my view
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Feb 18 1.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
bbs.....proving just as popular over there as well.
Thanks stirling,
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npn Crowborough 05 Feb 18 1.48pm | |
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He's not my favourite by any stretch, but it was really indicative that he was there shouting "gentlemen, please" and trying to be peace maker, having already made an offer to debate with the yobs (presumably only wearing balaclavas because it was the only way their mums would let them out). On one side is an intelligent man with unpopular views, on the other, a rabble only interested in shouting him down. I certainly don't fancy voting for JRM, but I know which side I'd rather was running the country. I actually like the fact he knows his views are unpopular but stands by them and is willing to debate it (rather than, for instance, Corbyn, who is as Eurosceptic as they come, but knows that stance is not popular among his supporters so keeps quiet)
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Stirlingsays 05 Feb 18 2.35pm | |
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Mogg isn't my first choice as Tory leader but I could live with it. He would be my first choice on negotiations on Brexit however.....or at least to be someone that Davies and May have to listen to. He does fulfill that latter statement but only due to May's fear of her party falling apart otherwise.
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silvertop Portishead 19 Feb 18 10.26am | |
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Originally posted by npn
He's not my favourite by any stretch, but it was really indicative that he was there shouting "gentlemen, please" and trying to be peace maker, having already made an offer to debate with the yobs (presumably only wearing balaclavas because it was the only way their mums would let them out). On one side is an intelligent man with unpopular views, on the other, a rabble only interested in shouting him down. I certainly don't fancy voting for JRM, but I know which side I'd rather was running the country. I actually like the fact he knows his views are unpopular but stands by them and is willing to debate it (rather than, for instance, Corbyn, who is as Eurosceptic as they come, but knows that stance is not popular among his supporters so keeps quiet) Ooh, hang on a bit. On the one hand Theresa May has a near impossible balancing act to perform as she is more than aware that, while she has a relative handful of arch [but very loud] Brexiteers yelling from the back benches they have huge grass roots suppport among the wider Tory faithful. Labour are no different. While the Parliamentary Labour Party is pretty much remain, the Leader is not; and nor is [for very different reasons] a significant majority of traditional Labour support wjo actualy put their crosses on the ballot papers. Both parties are having to manage very deep cracks resulting from the tensions produced from these schisms. Not fair to single out Labour even if you are right.
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Stuk Top half 19 Feb 18 4.09pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Ooh, hang on a bit. On the one hand Theresa May has a near impossible balancing act to perform as she is more than aware that, while she has a relative handful of arch [but very loud] Brexiteers yelling from the back benches they have huge grass roots suppport among the wider Tory faithful. Labour are no different. While the Parliamentary Labour Party is pretty much remain, the Leader is not; and nor is [for very different reasons] a significant majority of traditional Labour support wjo actualy put their crosses on the ballot papers. Both parties are having to manage very deep cracks resulting from the tensions produced from these schisms. Not fair to single out Labour even if you are right. He didn't, he singled out one person. You're the one who has gone off track. Edited by Stuk (19 Feb 2018 4.11pm)
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beak croydon 19 Feb 18 4.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Harry Beever
You need to relax a little mate. You obviously don’t agree with his views but resorting to personal insults is the fastest way to lose an argument. I don’t agree with his quoted stance on abortion but it doesn’t make him a piece of s*** no more than it makes the pope a piece of s***. You and I think it’s the mothers right, he feels it’s the unborn child’s right, that’s unlikely to change but i’m not going to hate him for what he believes in unless he attempts to ban abortion in the UK which I think unlikely. The pharmaceutical company no doubt produces other drugs that benefit human health as well as those responsible for terminations so not black and white and I wouldn’t be in a rush to judge him over that. So very clearly,you have never seen Prime Minister's Question Time,more abuse ,personal comments than a school playground. Edited by beak (19 Feb 2018 4.25pm)
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Stuk Top half 19 Feb 18 4.39pm | |
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Originally posted by beak
So very clearly,you have never seen Prime Minister's Question Time,more abuse ,personal comments than a school playground. Edited by beak (19 Feb 2018 4.25pm) You have amalgamated PMQs with a political BBC TV programme. Personal comments are fine at PMQs, personal insults are not allowed. Emily Thornberry has admitted to breaking the rules however.
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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 20 Feb 18 3.07am | |
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For those who think there are no more left wingers here I have one word, HELLO!
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Stirlingsays 20 Feb 18 5.22am | |
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Originally posted by kenbarr
For those who think there are no more left wingers here I have one word, HELLO! I'm making a prediction that New York falls to Trump next time around in 2020.
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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 20 Feb 18 6.00am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm making a prediction that New York falls to Trump next time around in 2020. He can't even win New York City and his positive/negative gap in this state is the highest of all. He won't win this state because he won't have to. The keys to his victory in 2016 were flipping Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. That's what he needs to hold on to in 2020.
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