Yep, the sneaky mating strategy. 'right on, down with the patriarchy...aren't men awful'...two weeks later...'please drop your panties'.

Some men are pathetic.

I'd say it's pretty subjective to whether the woman finds the guy attractive or not. Let's take catcalling for example and do a quick social experiment. First let's send an unattractive guy around in an old 106, pulling over to random women and shouting random compliments at them, then we will send an attractive guy around in a brand new Ferrari 360 and have him do the same. Both the same crime and both harrasment in the eyes of UK law.

Are you honestly telling me that both guys will get the same response from women ?

I had eczema as a kid to the extent I was bandaged up with a cream applied underneath. The nurse applied additional cream 'downstairs' after the bandages were on. Unlikely there was any unpleasant intent there 20 odd years ago, extremely likely it would lead disciplinary or criminal action were it to happen in 2017.

The real issue this raises is that blokes don't actually care, for reasons of societal influence or whatever, but obviously the only way to even things up is for us to make a fuss or for women to accept minor incidents for what they are. I'm not saying anyone should tolerate it, but when you've entered in to an unspoken contract a la Weinstein then maybe you should swallow it.

It's funny, loads of male mates have come out with stories since #metoo.

Sadly what's going to happen here is that feminists will suggest we're undermining abuse by sharing our stories. Which then indicates there is a difference between the sexes. Paradox much?

Edited by johnfirewall (31 Oct 2017 12.03pm)

A lot is entirely down to nature and how we're programmed, we're programmed differently.

Women get called gold diggers when in actual fact it's the traits of a successful man they actually find attractive, ambition, drive, talent, intelligence. Men we're stupid, we go for looks, a good looking woman smiles and flutters her eyelashes at you and that's it we are sucked in.

Men who excel in these traits will be successful and will abuse that power, women who are blessed with looks will also abuse that.

Women trully hold the power, everything a man does is with the intention of attracting the opposite sex, take women out the equation and the world would end tomorrow, men would get bored and fight untill we wipe each other out. Take men out the equation and life would go on.

^^^ this

I am older fatter, balder and penniless,. . . .so what do fit birds see in Rooney ?, . .or Trump, or Heffner (when he ws alive) . .etc