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 steeleye20  Croydon 26 Sep 17 10.59am |
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I didn't get that either. I don't see any real problem in cancelling brexit apart from the howling. Possibly lose the rebate but they are being phased out anyway. Portugal is an example of an EU country that does not have austerity a lot of comment how well they are doing too. Austerity is the policy of the UK government surely we are not trying to pin that on the EU together with all the other 'terminological inexactitudes'.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 26 Sep 17 11.10am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I didn't get that either. I don't see any real problem in cancelling brexit apart from the howling. Apart from the very core of the democratic process being totally ignored and eroded. Possibly lose the rebate but they are being phased out anyway. Portugal is an example of an EU country that does not have austerity a lot of comment how well they are doing too. Yes there is, but I don't see how you can compare the fiscal fortunes of Portugal to that of the UK, less we forget they also received a large handout from the EU to stop going belly up. Austerity is the policy of the UK government surely we are not trying to pin that on the EU together with all the other 'terminological inexactitudes'. Like it or loathe it the EU policy on spending does require Austerity if the books don't balance, France being the latest country to come under fire and being "told" what to do by the EU.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Sep 17 11.13am |
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What do we think about the idea to buy back pfi contracts?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Sep 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What do we think about the idea to buy back pfi contracts? Far be it from me to spend any of my precious time commenting on the 'Labour Party Conference' so I thought that for once I would engage in some 'Gusseting' and my first and last contribution to this thread is as follows : Not going to peek at this thread any more.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 26 Sep 17 11.30am |
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Sorry already removed, I guess some Milo fan mistaking the Pavilion for a mosque.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 26 Sep 17 11.38am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What do we think about the idea to buy back pfi contracts? I agree, mainly due to the poor negotiation and procurement than any political preference. It is the stuff that the bureaucrats do badly and ex-civil service Accenture, Capita, Paymaster administer really badly but always chosen by the Civil Service.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 26 Sep 17 11.56am |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Lot of bold type but you haven't explained how the EU is to blame for the UK policy of austerity. The voters elected the tories and got austerity. And that's it nothing whatever to do with the EU.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Sep 17 12.25pm |
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Isn't fiscal discipline part of membership of the Eurozone, which thank god we're not in?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 26 Sep 17 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Isn't fiscal discipline part of membership of the Eurozone, which thank god we're not in? Too right Rudi surely nobody believes there could be fiscal discipline in the UK !!!!!!!!!!!!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 17 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I didn't get that either. I don't see any real problem in cancelling brexit apart from the howling. Possibly lose the rebate but they are being phased out anyway. Portugal is an example of an EU country that does not have austerity a lot of comment how well they are doing too. Austerity is the policy of the UK government surely we are not trying to pin that on the EU together with all the other 'terminological inexactitudes'. As long as its done by a referendum of the people, I wouldn't see it as a problem. However, I do take issue with the idea that government will adapt the will of the people, to suit its own agenda.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 26 Sep 17 1.09pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
With respect you don't get it. Half the country do not want brexit. Almost half, more than half of those who could be bothered to vote,voted for Brexit! That is not represented in parliament by the govt or opposition. Harold Wilson or Tony Blair would have identified the problem and got those voters on board IMO but labour have missed out here. Vince Cable seems a really sensible guy and the only leader to offer no brexit so I will be changing. Cable is an old fool who should be retired, anyway the LibDumbs have no power and as for him saying 'when I am PM' Really? It is Mr. Barnier who is making the tories change their position not labour. Also if we stop brexit now, we will be forced to adopt the Euro as a condition of being allowed back in...does everyone want that? Edited by the silurian (26 Sep 2017 1.09pm)
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| gbox82 Meols, Wirral 26 Sep 17 1.12pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What do we think about the idea to buy back pfi contracts? Sounds a lovely idea, but where does all the money come from? Also sounds like McDonnell was a little misleading yesterday where he said all existing pfi contracts would be brought "back in-house" ... but this later got scaled back to say that they would just review all current pfi deals. Wonder why he didn't say "reviewed" in his speech? Maybe because it wouldn't have got the same enthusiastic response!
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