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npn Crowborough 06 Sep 17 12.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
What if he started eating vegans? High in vitamins and will reduce the amount of hot air in the atmosphere. Tough one to spin though when the tabloid headlines read "Corbyn Eats Do-Gooder" Sorry vegans, I'm not really poking fun at you. As alluded to earlier, respect for what you do and all that jazz. Rich in fibre, I'd imagine
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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Sep 17 12.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
To you perhaps. Morality is a personal thing but humans were designed to eat meat and that is unavoidable.
Morals aren't socially or personally defined, they're effective truths. Also humans aren't designed to do anything, they evolve. Humans, like Chimps, are not carnivorous, they're omnivores. Chimps are not frequent meat eaters, and primarily consume vegetation, but supplement their diet with meat (typically small monkeys and insects). Which is the healthy ideal for primitive humans / chimps ensures the widest spread of nutritional source. Arguably, that's not really necessary in the 20 and 21st century, as you can easily supplement nutrition through the greater knowledge of the subject available to humans. Also if humans were 'designed' to eat meat they wouldn't need to cook it with the kind of regularity they do - as no other species needs to provide heat to eliminate toxin and germs. Like Chimps we can only eat very fresh meat raw. The truth is that very few animals eat meat on a daily basis with the regularity of humans, and it is not particularly healthy for them to do so. As you say later moderation is the key. But moderation isn't really 'once or twice a day'.
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Part Time James 06 Sep 17 12.57pm | |
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Originally posted by npn
Rich in fibre, I'd imagine Yes. Moral fibre I've been told....by vegans....on an hourly basis.
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Ray in Houston Houston 06 Sep 17 3.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, fish and beans also have cholesterol. It's about the type of cholesterol and how much. Chicken is fine and a good source of protein.....many foods are fine in moderation.
Yes, fish has cholesterol, which is why I don't eat it anymore.
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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 17 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Yes, fish has cholesterol, which is why I don't eat it anymore. Beans are great and are cholesterol lowering. But it's a reality that baked beans have cholesterol. Cholesterol is necessary for life. It's the level.
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coulsdoneagle London 06 Sep 17 3.51pm | |
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Well That's not true as hardly any tories are made up from the blood of the poor.
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Ray in Houston Houston 06 Sep 17 3.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Beans are great and are cholesterol lowering. But it's a reality that baked beans have cholesterol. Cholesterol is necessary for life. It's the level. Stop being such a dick. There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Beans are a fantastic source of good cholesterol. Chicken, beef, fish, eggs etc. are laced with bad cholesterol. And if you think that a vegetarian is talking about cans of Heinz when they talk about eating beans, you're ignorant. I don't think you are, you're just deliberately obtuse when facts get in the way of your opinions because being wrong doesn't comport with your self-proclaimed "alpha male" online persona.
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Sep 17 4.02pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Morals aren't socially or personally defined, they're effective truths. Also humans aren't designed to do anything, they evolve. Humans, like Chimps, are not carnivorous, they're omnivores. Chimps are not frequent meat eaters, and primarily consume vegetation, but supplement their diet with meat (typically small monkeys and insects). Which is the healthy ideal for primitive humans / chimps ensures the widest spread of nutritional source. Arguably, that's not really necessary in the 20 and 21st century, as you can easily supplement nutrition through the greater knowledge of the subject available to humans. Also if humans were 'designed' to eat meat they wouldn't need to cook it with the kind of regularity they do - as no other species needs to provide heat to eliminate toxin and germs. Like Chimps we can only eat very fresh meat raw. The truth is that very few animals eat meat on a daily basis with the regularity of humans, and it is not particularly healthy for them to do so. As you say later moderation is the key. But moderation isn't really 'once or twice a day'. That is just opinion without a shred of scientific basis. We eat too much of everything because it is available and we have a craving for nutrition rich foods because that is what would keep us from starving in the natural world where food is probably scarce and requires energy consumption to obtain.
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Sep 17 4.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Stop being such a dick. There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Beans are a fantastic source of good cholesterol. Chicken, beef, fish, eggs etc. are laced with bad cholesterol. And if you think that a vegetarian is talking about cans of Heinz when they talk about eating beans, you're ignorant. I don't think you are, you're just deliberately obtuse when facts get in the way of your opinions because being wrong doesn't comport with your self-proclaimed "alpha male" online persona.
There is no certainty and there are very few absolutes in current nutritional science.
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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 06 Sep 17 4.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Stop being such a dick. There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Beans are a fantastic source of good cholesterol. Chicken, beef, fish, eggs etc. are laced with bad cholesterol. And if you think that a vegetarian is talking about cans of Heinz when they talk about eating beans, you're ignorant. I don't think you are, you're just deliberately obtuse when facts get in the way of your opinions because being wrong doesn't comport with your self-proclaimed "alpha male" online persona. I'm seeing something very large and green, bursting out of his long trousers .
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Ray in Houston Houston 06 Sep 17 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are saying with authority and certainty what the worlds best nutritional scientists cannot agree on. There is no certainty and there are very few absolutes in current nutritional science.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Sep 17 4.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
There are no absolutes in science; that what makes science so much better than belief or faith. It's constantly being challenged to prove the current consensus right or wrong and, when it's wrong, they change the consensus. Faith and belief are absolutes that never change and, as such, are far more dangerous. Why do you subscribe to so much left wing claptrap then?
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