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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Aug 17 11.50am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Was it a wonder we made mistakes at the back when our 'fans' were booing from the get go. Disgraceful imo.

That's true v Huddersfield with the 1-2-3-4-5 passes between Hennessey and Riederwald but not v Swansea. The boos happened at HT, possibly only HT because it was so close to HT, and at full time. Apart from that it just wasn't supportive apart from half a dozen moments of pressure from us and some rallying.

 


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Dan89 Flag Se25 28 Aug 17 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Was it a wonder we made mistakes at the back when our 'fans' were booing from the get go. Disgraceful imo.

Unfortunately for de Boer our home form has been embarrassing 63 pts from 59 home games in the premier league. That's where the frustration lies. Us season ticket holder are not getting value for money. That's why I booed. I'm sick of coming to selhurst to see us win an average of 6 games a season. It must be a mental block or something.

 


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Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 28 Aug 17 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

So what? He saved the club and he should be thanked for that but how long do we have that mindset for?

If someone saved your life how long do you give the person who saved you before you grow tired of them taking liberties with your wife, driving your car, drinking your beer before you say "Thanks for what you did but you need to buck your ideas up, pal!"

Bizarre post but if someone saved my life I will feel like I will always owe them however to let them have a go on the car & the missus is a little bit too far.

At what point did you get cuckold?

 

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 28 Aug 17 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Unfortunately for de Boer our home form has been embarrassing 63 pts from 59 home games in the premier league. That's where the frustration lies. Us season ticket holder are not getting value for money. That's why I booed. I'm sick of coming to selhurst to see us win an average of 6 games a season. It must be a mental block or something.

Yeah a mental block which booing is gonna fix or make worse?

Talk about adding pressure, no better way than home fans booing.

Anyway each to their own. If you think it's productive or that becuase you've paid you have a right to. Well ok your choice, I don't see how it helps tho.

And as for those saying the booing started once we was behind I'll disagree with that. Maybe mistaken but pretty sure booing started before we went behind.

Our lads confidence isn't gonna grow by having the fans on them from mid way through the first half. That's all.

 

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Dan89 Flag Se25 28 Aug 17 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Yeah a mental block which booing is gonna fix or make worse?

Talk about adding pressure, no better way than home fans booing.

Anyway each to their own. If you think it's productive or that becuase you've paid you have a right to. Well ok your choice, I don't see how it helps tho.

And as for those saying the booing started once we was behind I'll disagree with that. Maybe mistaken but pretty sure booing started before we went behind.

Our lads confidence isn't gonna grow by having the fans on them from mid way through the first half. That's all.

My booeing is not aimed at de Boer, it the home form for a number of years and the lack of investment this year. With the style not working under pardew, after escaping under big Sam. Why did parish appoint FDB in the first place.

 


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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 28 Aug 17 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

My booeing is not aimed at de Boer, it the home form for a number of years and the lack of investment this year. With the style not working under pardew, after escaping under big Sam. Why did parish appoint FDB in the first place.

No idea but my point isn't questioning if de Boer or our formation is right or wrong, im just asking if booing our players in the first half is productive.

I can't imagine for the life of me how it helps our players.

Not arguing your reasons just if it's productive or not. Sloppy mistakes can easily be put down to lack of concentration and having our fans booing our players may, just may impact their concentration.

I'm sure you have ample reason to want to boo, but possible it's counter productive. Especially when it's nil nil.

 

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majorkaios Flag Trowbridge, Wilts 28 Aug 17 3.28pm Send a Private Message to majorkaios Add majorkaios as a friend

Originally posted by iheartcpfc

ignoring the sarcastic patronising of me

The fatal error so far this season is the inability to defend crosses. This is basic stuff we're talking about, losing a man in the box and not pressuring the crosser. In the Hudds game Mooy (and Ince) had the freedom of SP to cross as our 3 atb system and high line was exploited by one long ball (which Schalke used again and again) into the space. Riedewald was partly to blame as well for losing Mounie. Even in the first few mins v Swans they nearly scored from a cross to Abraham.

Another thing is the absymal movement of the team in possession. No one presents themselves as options for the pass, no one creates space for themselves in the 3-4-3 system as I suspect they barely understand where they should be. With Wilf there are no runners in the team and the wing backs have half a mind on not being caught up the pitch. As a result our build up play is easy to defend against. No surprise when Andros ran at their defence (going with his instinct as a direct player) we looked like we'd threaten them. Unless the movement is there then we will create f*** all.

Thirdly, the system has completely negated Luka's presence by forcing him to push up instead of screening the CB's. He is a defensive midfielder, end of and should be in a midfield 3. He must take some blame for his poor performances but the system is not right for him. With 2 CB's and him in front he can drop in between them to collect the ball and distribute to Cabaye and RLC (the ideal partners for him) then stay in our half but he has too much to do now. He is a very effective player in the right system but FdB is using him poorly.

Edited by iheartcpfc (28 Aug 2017 8.14am)

Ok apologies for remarks made, and thanks for a productive reply. However, Set pieces were and I agree are bread and butter for any footballer, and were in my view footballer errors, maybe Riedewald but wrong footed in my view by Mounie. Some players are going to find themselves being out of position and in unfamiliar territory, that's Total football.

Midfielders losing the ball stopping transitional moves from progressing are I agree what lost our games and does not help and may appear as if players don't know the system, yes fluidity in the transition of defensive to attacking back to defensive will come with time, and the window is still open. Again down to some players concentration in my view.

Where he has placed players like Luka as you mentioned in apparently wrong positions, it is clear that it was temporary in order to allow other players to get used to being in unfamiliar territory, and learning to help each other as a team that's 'Total football'.

Ok, we saw the same matches and I'm quite happy to go around filling half empty cups on HOL. Thanks again, so I admit it is also a learning curve for the Manager and the board too but nowhere as steep as the players used before the window shuts or as some on HOL suggest. The only way the board would be pant wetting as much as some on HOL is if CPFC2010 truly don't have any more money to back up Frank. In which case I believe and the rest of the league would agree, he was misled.

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND, sincerely

 


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Petereagle Flag Brockley 28 Aug 17 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by majorkaios

Ok apologies for remarks made, and thanks for a productive reply. However, Set pieces were and I agree are bread and butter for any footballer, and were in my view footballer errors, maybe Riedewald but wrong footed in my view by Mounie. Some players are going to find themselves being out of position and in unfamiliar territory, that's Total football.

Midfielders losing the ball stopping transitional moves from progressing are I agree what lost our games and does not help and may appear as if players don't know the system, yes fluidity in the transition of defensive to attacking back to defensive will come with time, and the window is still open. Again down to some players concentration in my view.

Where he has placed players like Luka as you mentioned in apparently wrong positions, it is clear that it was temporary in order to allow other players to get used to being in unfamiliar territory, and learning to help each other as a team that's 'Total football'.

Ok, we saw the same matches and I'm quite happy to go around filling half empty cups on HOL. Thanks again, so I admit it is also a learning curve for the Manager and the board too but nowhere as steep as the players used before the window shuts or as some on HOL suggest. The only way the board would be pant wetting as much as some on HOL is if CPFC2010 truly don't have any more money to back up Frank. In which case I believe and the rest of the league would agree, he was misled.

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND, sincerely

I think we will see players coming in, including hopefully Sackho Unfortunately, getting in one good player in isnt going to change low confidence, uncertainty, lack of a clear playing style etc.

 

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Xchurch Eagle Flag Christchurch 29 Aug 17 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Xchurch Eagle Add Xchurch Eagle as a friend

Parish apparently telling FDB to adapt his tactics...

So could this be us back to playing to our strengths?

Don't know whether to make anything of it...

[Link]

 


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Dan89 Flag Se25 29 Aug 17 1.08pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Xchurch Eagle

Parish apparently telling FDB to adapt his tactics...

So could this be us back to playing to our strengths?

Don't know whether to make anything of it...

[Link]

Pretty embarrassing that parish is trying to tell him to play a certain way. When you appoint a manager you should believe in his philosophy or show him the door. Parish needs to swallow his pride and get a manager that suits. Question marks should be raised about parish job as chairman.

Edited by Dan89 (29 Aug 2017 1.08pm)

 


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iheartcpfc Flag SE25 29 Aug 17 1.22pm Send a Private Message to iheartcpfc Add iheartcpfc as a friend

Originally posted by majorkaios

Ok apologies for remarks made, and thanks for a productive reply. However, Set pieces were and I agree are bread and butter for any footballer, and were in my view footballer errors, maybe Riedewald but wrong footed in my view by Mounie. Some players are going to find themselves being out of position and in unfamiliar territory, that's Total football.

Midfielders losing the ball stopping transitional moves from progressing are I agree what lost our games and does not help and may appear as if players don't know the system, yes fluidity in the transition of defensive to attacking back to defensive will come with time, and the window is still open. Again down to some players concentration in my view.

Where he has placed players like Luka as you mentioned in apparently wrong positions, it is clear that it was temporary in order to allow other players to get used to being in unfamiliar territory, and learning to help each other as a team that's 'Total football'.

Ok, we saw the same matches and I'm quite happy to go around filling half empty cups on HOL. Thanks again, so I admit it is also a learning curve for the Manager and the board too but nowhere as steep as the players used before the window shuts or as some on HOL suggest. The only way the board would be pant wetting as much as some on HOL is if CPFC2010 truly don't have any more money to back up Frank. In which case I believe and the rest of the league would agree, he was misled.

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND, sincerely

You too chief, no hard feelings

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 29 Aug 17 1.31pm

Originally posted by Jules111

We should have gone for Dyche - safe option. Parish has got it drastically wrong and needs to act soon and relieve FDB from his duties.

Why would Dyche come to Palace. Its not like were a much better option than Burnley or that they couldn't make him as good an offer to stay. Dyche has decent backing, a working game plan, a reasonable contract, decent job security and a team that's done very well over two full seasons.

 


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