do you not think that's the same under FdB or (idiot as you seem to know him as)

Number one I don't believe that the players won't try hard for one of the best defenders in modern footballing history. If you were a professional footballer would you want to give up and say I'm not good enough, or would you knuckle down and try and impress? You would bloody hope it's the latter.

Secondly let's not pretend we cruised to safety under Sam. A disastrous run at the end almost saw us go down. Everyone keeps focusing on FdB's lack of experience in the PL, but seeing as all of the most successful managers in the league are foreign (and hence came in with no experience) I don't buy into this easy get out.

WBA is the only club that has had some recent success (of sorts) by playing a low possession, counter-attacking game. The club has decided it wants to try and push on and sees a possession based game as the way to do this and hence they brought in Frank.

This is a man who has played at the highest level, with the biggest clubs, with the best players. He won the league four times with Ajax while bringing through youth players who have gone on to play for some of the biggest clubs in Europe. And yet, apparently, one game is enough for us to decide he doesn't know what he is doing. Apparently our club and the Premier League is some great mystery. Apparently it's ok if you are Pulis and Allardyce and want to stubbornly stick to the tactics that work for you, but not if you want to play some fruity foreign game (which has worked well for other clubs in the PL).

One game FFS. If after a dozen games the system isn't working, we haven't brought in suitable players and Frank refuses to change tactics, then fine, I could understand the furor. BUT. One game FFS.

This is HOL so did you really expect to hear anything else but the sound of jerking knees?

You appear to be one of the new generation supporters, who seem to feel a sense of entitlement and go around stomping your feet if things don't go as you would like.
To call FDB an idiot is childish, he has won more things as a player or manager than any other manager in our history. Now does that make him an idiot, I don't think so.
There are some supporters that are prepared to let him get on with it and hold judgement until about 10 games in. Conti had no Premier experience and had a poor start last season, how did that turn out.

What FdB has achieved as a manager and what Conti achieved before turning up at Chelsea is chalk and cheese!

The Dutch league isn't comparable to the Italian league. Also having been Italian national coach makes him a little more experienced and adaptable than someone who has been in 1 league, a weak one at that, and then sacked after 2 months in Italy.

Albeit I don't think FdB was given a fair crack of the whip there.

Number one I don't believe that the players won't try hard for one of the best defenders in modern footballing history. If you were a professional footballer would you want to give up and say I'm not good enough, or would you knuckle down and try and impress? You would bloody hope it's the latter.

Secondly let's not pretend we cruised to safety under Sam. A disastrous run at the end almost saw us go down. Everyone keeps focusing on FdB's lack of experience in the PL, but seeing as all of the most successful managers in the league are foreign (and hence came in with no experience) I don't buy into this easy get out.

WBA is the only club that has had some recent success (of sorts) by playing a low possession, counter-attacking game. The club has decided it wants to try and push on and sees a possession based game as the way to do this and hence they brought in Frank.

This is a man who has played at the highest level, with the biggest clubs, with the best players. He won the league four times with Ajax while bringing through youth players who have gone on to play for some of the biggest clubs in Europe. And yet, apparently, one game is enough for us to decide he doesn't know what he is doing. Apparently our club and the Premier League is some great mystery. Apparently it's ok if you are Pulis and Allardyce and want to stubbornly stick to the tactics that work for you, but not if you want to play some fruity foreign game (which has worked well for other clubs in the PL).

One game FFS. If after a dozen games the system isn't working, we haven't brought in suitable players and Frank refuses to change tactics, then fine, I could understand the furor. BUT. One game FFS.