There'll be profit somewhere. A company won't take on that responsibility as goodwill.

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I have no idea what the root cause of this was, and neither do you. Yet you are already jumping to conclusions, despite criticising those who do the same on other threads.

I was a health and safety rep for my union, and used to report crap like this all the time. Far too often I would receive a shrug of the shoulders with a 'what do you want me to do about it.' That's just as a likely a cause for this as profit motive. Either of which would be disgraceful.

If someone is responsible, I hope they end up in prison whatever their motive for doing the wrong thing. But let's not jump to conclusions any more than we should with acts of terror.

And if you think I'm not angry about this because I am willing to wait to judge, I just explained what was happening to my 11 yr old. I have also visited claimants in that building and know it's a death trap.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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When I used to work with disadvantaged kids we'd report abuse, and get the same response I previoulsy mentioned from most of the social workers.

I am not disagreeing that profit might have been a motive, but we don't yet know.

I would also not be surprised if it is incompetence, that has not been dealt with by lazy management, or corruption. It might, of course, be all of the above.

This tragedy is simply horrific.

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If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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If we don't have a response to the deaths of our brothers and sisters at Grenfell Tower then they will have died in vain. A few people are whining on social media that this event shouldn't be 'politicised'. I'm calling bulls*** on that. When the last government voted against improving living conditions in rented housing it was politicised. When successive governments failed to build adequate and safe housing stock it was politicised. When Theresa May sat on a report warning that an event like this might happen for four years, it was politicised. When fire stations were closed down in the name of austerity, it was politicised. When council housing was handed over to semi-privatised ALMOs it was politicised. When profits made from public money lined private pockets it was politicised. When our money was spent cladding working-class tower blocks to make them more palatable for the local gentrifiers, it was politicised. Over the past decade or so tens of thousands of people have died at the hands of the elite because of the failed policy of austerity. The deaths last night were part of that toll. But they have to be the end. Unless we roar our dissent, unless we say we will not accept this s***e for one moment more, we will have failed them all. Do something. Get out on the streets on 1 July. Scream. Shout. Make your voice heard. Don't fail them now. Anger is an energy. Find a channel for it and do something.

Seems theresa mays new chief of staff gavin barwell has questions to answer about building regs/sprinkler systems in tower blocks, was going to call a meeting then election happened, its not theresas week !