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Part Time James 21 Apr 17 4.04pm | |
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Oh it got deep again Lots of big words too
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miss smith london 21 Apr 17 4.07pm | |
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lets hope we are still in the top flight next season to even play them
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miss smith london 21 Apr 17 4.10pm | |
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thats what the james do best Edited by miss smith (21 Apr 2017 4.11pm) Edited by miss smith (21 Apr 2017 4.12pm)
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jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Apr 17 4.14pm | |
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Who takes the fun out... who who who who. I do think we need a more subtle song that implies specifically, to a Brighton fan, that their parents only met the once, money exchanged hands, and she was dressed like a man.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 21 Apr 17 4.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Yes, but I'd argue that they are both inclinations that a person would find it difficult to fight. The difference is that one is legal and one isn't and therefore the person with the legal sexual tastes should never have to fight their desires. I mean I can make this case with any legal and illegal sexual preferences. I believe a paedophile is a person who is sexually primarily attracted to pre-pubescent children. If so, doesn't that make it a sexual orientation? Saying that, I completely agree, homosexuals have a consenting partner, a paedophile does not, as a pre-pubescent child can not consent. On the subject of gay chanting, I don't take part in it, but I do recognise that for 95% of those singing it, it's getting a rise out of the opposition and that most of the people taking part are not actually homophobes.
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Daz.CPFC Bromley 21 Apr 17 4.16pm | |
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poofters the lot of them. oh no...
PALACE TILL I DIE!!! |
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Casual Orpington 21 Apr 17 4.17pm | |
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What a two bob thread this is coming from a group of under 10 people. If one of my boys grows up to be an iron, all that would matter to me is that he is happy, he won't be standing behind a rainbow flag with a load of weird looking people . He will be with me and his brother and his pals. No ones really interested if the LGBT mob like it up the a*se or not. It's just a p*ss take. Fat people are fat, ginger people are ginger and ugly c*nts are ugly c*nts and all will have the piss taken out of them for being so.
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Part Time James 21 Apr 17 4.17pm | |
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Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff
I believe a paedophile is a person who is sexually primarily attracted to pre-pubescent children. If so, doesn't that make it a sexual orientation? Saying that, I completely agree, homosexuals have a consenting partner, a paedophile does not, as a pre-pubescent child can not consent. On the subject of gay chanting, I don't take part in it, but I do recognise that for 95% of those singing it, it's getting a rise out of the opposition and that most of the people taking part are not actually homophobes. I believe it's a semantic debate started by Jamie. Doesn't matter what you call it, amounts to the same thing and on that basis you and I are in agreement. I don't think Jamie disagrees either. He just wanted to rename the categories. I didn't feel the need to dispute the categorisation because I didn't feel like it invalidated or prevented what I was trying to say.
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Part Time James 21 Apr 17 4.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Casual
What a two bob thread this is coming from a group of under 10 people. If one of my boys grows up to be an iron, all that would matter to me is that he is happy, he won't be standing behind a rainbow flag with a load of weird looking people . He will be with me and his brother and his pals. No ones really interested if the LGBT mob like it up the a*se or not. It's just a p*ss take. Fat people are fat, ginger people are ginger and ugly c*nts are ugly c*nts and all will have the piss taken out of them for being so. +1 now
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norwoodyguthrie 21 Apr 17 4.20pm | |
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Who needs to mock other men about their sexuality? Some research says it's men that feel their own manliness is 'precarious'.
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Part Time James 21 Apr 17 4.21pm | |
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Originally posted by norwoodyguthrie
Who needs to mock other men about their sexuality? Some research says it's men that feel their own manliness is 'precarious'. Rubbish, I watched a bloke in the showers of my gym dry his p**** for 5 minutes and I've never once sang a homophobic song at football.
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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 21 Apr 17 4.22pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Someone who is gay, is capable of moderating their sexuality and behaviour to acceptable social norms and restriction - and is compulsive or obsessively attracted to specific characteristics of masculinity only. Also they establish relationships of flexibility (i.e. long term relationships, emotional and psychological attachments)- where as the pedo is ONLY interested in the age of their victim. Paedophiles seem to be fixated on specific aspects of youth (technically a pederast is someone who acts on those fixations) - Typically young pre-pubescent children. Which is why its a fetish, the desire tends to be not about preferences, but of necessity. Obviously its not true of all child sex offenders, but when we're talking about the 'hardwired' type, its very different that seen in gay and lesbianism. The desire is typically for a male or female, without real regard for the interests or pleasure of their partner and within a specific age band. That's very different from sexuality - which tends to be expressive, towards mutual ends and reasonably empathic. Where as paedophilia is effectively the fetishiation of the individual to the gratification of the offender. Its the youth element that important. Even when homosexuality was illegal - the expression of the vast majority was for mutual consensual pleasure and relationships - With an empathic understanding of the needs and interests of their partners. I thought a pederast is someone interested in pubescent children or very young adults), which sets them apart from a paedophile?
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