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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Oct 16 7.23pm
Originally posted by cpj According to that logic we should lose to all the teams who finished above us last season and beat all those who finished below. Yeah, like that will happen. LC's squad last season cost about £54m to assemble. We had players who cost us over £80m in the XI on Saturday. Either they are better at signing players than we are or their manager is better. Well no, the logic is that anyone who outperforms us over a 55 game spell can be considered a better team than us - Kermit never mentioned the result of the game. As for the second part - they do recruit better than us, and Ranieri is a better manager - what's your point? If failing to be Leicester, the biggest overachievers in the history of the Premiership, is reason to slate Pardew, then we might as well pack it in now.
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Originally posted by cpj

According to that logic we should lose to all the teams who finished above us last season and beat all those who finished below. Yeah, like that will happen.

LC's squad last season cost about £54m to assemble. We had players who cost us over £80m in the XI on Saturday. Either they are better at signing players than we are or their manager is better.

Well no, the logic is that anyone who outperforms us over a 55 game spell can be considered a better team than us - Kermit never mentioned the result of the game.

As for the second part - they do recruit better than us, and Ranieri is a better manager - what's your point? If failing to be Leicester, the biggest overachievers in the history of the Premiership, is reason to slate Pardew, then we might as well pack it in now.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Oct 16 7.25pm
Originally posted by cpfccolin I think we should give Mr AP a few more games and see how it goes. The only thing that that gets up my goat are the excuses other fans constantly shout about is we need top players to improve our play we ONLY have championship players. Well Leicester, Bournemouth, Watford all have championship players in their ranks, and they all are playing better football than us. Its the tactics the Manager employs, and how he motivates these championship players. You mean the Bournemouth and Watford who are an overwhelming one point ahead of us this season? Yeah, if only we could dream to be that good.
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SE19 24 Oct 16 7.25pm

Originally posted by cpfccolin

I think we should give Mr AP a few more games and see how it goes.
The only thing that that gets up my goat are the excuses other fans constantly shout about is we need top players to improve our play we ONLY have championship players.

Well Leicester, Bournemouth, Watford all have championship players in their ranks, and they all are playing better football than us.

Its the tactics the Manager employs, and how he motivates these championship players.

You mean the Bournemouth and Watford who are an overwhelming one point ahead of us this season?

Yeah, if only we could dream to be that good.

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cpfccolin Dorset 24 Oct 16 8.04pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow You mean the Bournemouth and Watford who are an overwhelming one point ahead of us this season? Yeah, if only we could dream to be that good. At least Watford beat Man U 3-1 with Championship players. Can we do that ???? will the excuses be we cant expect to beat Man U with Championship players ?????
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Dorset 24 Oct 16 8.04pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

You mean the Bournemouth and Watford who are an overwhelming one point ahead of us this season?

Yeah, if only we could dream to be that good.

At least Watford beat Man U 3-1 with Championship players.
Can we do that ???? will the excuses be we cant expect to beat Man U with Championship players ?????

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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Oct 16 8.11pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Well no, the logic is that anyone who outperforms us over a 55 game spell can be considered a better team than us - Kermit never mentioned the result of the game. As for the second part - they do recruit better than us, and Ranieri is a better manager - what's your point? If failing to be Leicester, the biggest overachievers in the history of the Premiership, is reason to slate Pardew, then we might as well pack it in now. Thanks, fella. You've just saved me the effort of replying to him almost word for word. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 24 Oct 16 8.11pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Well no, the logic is that anyone who outperforms us over a 55 game spell can be considered a better team than us - Kermit never mentioned the result of the game.

Thanks, fella. You've just saved me the effort of replying to him almost word for word.

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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Oct 16 8.17pm
Originally posted by sickboy Really? You would seriously say you could do a job someone has done all their life better than them even though you can have no idea about the day to day intricasies. Remember we see an hour and a half of the working week. You might have seen the dustman empty your bins but unless you have worked in that industry i gaurantee you wont know more about his job even if he was the biggest knuckle dragger on the planet. Playing football and having a very good ability in analysing the game are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Collina - best ref ever. Never kicked a professional football in his life. He knew about the intricacies. I don't know about his commentating ability but would certainly trust him over a spluttering Dowie or a bias Carragher Edited by Kermit8 (24 Oct 2016 8.18pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Originally posted by sickboy

Really? You would seriously say you could do a job someone has done all their life better than them even though you can have no idea about the day to day intricasies. Remember we see an hour and a half of the working week. You might have seen the dustman empty your bins but unless you have worked in that industry i gaurantee you wont know more about his job even if he was the biggest knuckle dragger on the planet.

Playing football and having a very good ability in analysing the game are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Collina - best ref ever. Never kicked a professional football in his life. He knew about the intricacies. I don't know about his commentating ability but would certainly trust him over a spluttering Dowie or a bias Carragher

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palace-metros Redhill 24 Oct 16 8.34pm
Originally posted by cpfccolin At least Watford beat Man U 3-1 with Championship players. Can we do that ???? will the excuses be we cant expect to beat Man U with Championship players ????? Behave. Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
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Redhill 24 Oct 16 8.34pm

Originally posted by cpfccolin

At least Watford beat Man U 3-1 with Championship players.
Can we do that ???? will the excuses be we cant expect to beat Man U with Championship players ?????

Behave.

Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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Mstrobez 24 Oct 16 8.35pm
Originally posted by rikz But we haven't been abysmal have we. We lost to a good Leicester team but still managed to create enough chances that on another day would atleast be enough for a draw, and the west ham game tho pretty poor was a missed penalty from being a point. That's the players not the manager. So you admit your opinion is not football based but from a personal dislike for pardew. It's embarrassing you go to ever game and still have no clue what your talking about. Why dont you stop talking out of your arse making statements without backing them up. I didnt admit its not football based but carry on with your pathetic logic - I don't like Pardew for many reasons beyond footballing matters but the main reason is what I watch on the pitch. His tactics in my opinion are "pass to the wings, run as fast as you can and then kick it". All this transition bollox, he wants us to play with more possession - all well and good if you have any plan whilst in possession but as far as I can see there isn't one. It's embarrassing how far up Pardews arse you are despite the fact that in the last 38 games (in case you didn't know thats the amount of games that is played in a premier league season), he's earnt us 38 points which is relegation form. Keep deflecting the facts by calling me a fake fan and telling me I'm embarrassing - I look forward to hearing you splurt more bulls*** with no substance. We're the Arthur over ere!
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24 Oct 16 8.35pm

Originally posted by rikz

But we haven't been abysmal have we. We lost to a good Leicester team but still managed to create enough chances that on another day would atleast be enough for a draw, and the west ham game tho pretty poor was a missed penalty from being a point. That's the players not the manager.

So you admit your opinion is not football based but from a personal dislike for pardew.

It's embarrassing you go to ever game and still have no clue what your talking about.

Why dont you stop talking out of your arse making statements without backing them up.

I didnt admit its not football based but carry on with your pathetic logic - I don't like Pardew for many reasons beyond footballing matters but the main reason is what I watch on the pitch. His tactics in my opinion are "pass to the wings, run as fast as you can and then kick it".

All this transition bollox, he wants us to play with more possession - all well and good if you have any plan whilst in possession but as far as I can see there isn't one.

It's embarrassing how far up Pardews arse you are despite the fact that in the last 38 games (in case you didn't know thats the amount of games that is played in a premier league season), he's earnt us 38 points which is relegation form.

Keep deflecting the facts by calling me a fake fan and telling me I'm embarrassing - I look forward to hearing you splurt more bulls*** with no substance.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Southampton_Eagle At the after party 24 Oct 16 8.39pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 I've got mixed feelings. If you look at the league table, the top five are in their own minI league, then you gave man u, Southampton and Everton who will finish above us which means best we can realistically hope for is 9th. We're currently one point off 9th in 11th so not to bad. on the down side, I think AP seriously messed up by not getting a good no.10 in the transfer market. We still look predictable using the wingers but have little threat going through the middle. Should also have bought a fullback... He ridiculously bought a full on striker instead. There's no never ending pot of money.
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Originally posted by spartakev2

I've got mixed feelings.
If you look at the league table, the top five are in their own minI league, then you gave man u, Southampton and Everton who will finish above us which means best we can realistically hope for is 9th. We're currently one point off 9th in 11th so not to bad.
on the down side, I think AP seriously messed up by not getting a good no.10 in the transfer market. We still look predictable using the wingers but have little threat going through the middle. Should also have bought a fullback...

He ridiculously bought a full on striker instead. There's no never ending pot of money.

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Mstrobez 24 Oct 16 8.39pm
Originally posted by Stuart Shave I don't forget at all. I'm well aware where Leicester finished pre Ranieri. Also I'm aware that Leicester were extremely lucky with injuries and suspensions last season - a piece of luck that wasn't given out to Pardew last season. He has also recognised that the SQUAD isn't good enough and has already started the process to make it better - that doesn't happen overnight for a club like Palace. We're all aware 2016 hasn't been a great calendar year in terms of results, but sometimes there is a little more to see than a result. Instead of stating the 5/31 games won, how about 34/79 games won? Might make you feel a little better. The reason I don't consider stats in that vein is because is 100% consistent with Pardew's entire career. There is no plan B - he might talk a game that convinces you but some people can see beyond alot of his press conference bulls***. We're the Arthur over ere!
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24 Oct 16 8.39pm

Originally posted by Stuart Shave

I don't forget at all. I'm well aware where Leicester finished pre Ranieri. Also I'm aware that Leicester were extremely lucky with injuries and suspensions last season - a piece of luck that wasn't given out to Pardew last season. He has also recognised that the SQUAD isn't good enough and has already started the process to make it better - that doesn't happen overnight for a club like Palace.

We're all aware 2016 hasn't been a great calendar year in terms of results, but sometimes there is a little more to see than a result. Instead of stating the 5/31 games won, how about 34/79 games won? Might make you feel a little better.

The reason I don't consider stats in that vein is because is 100% consistent with Pardew's entire career. There is no plan B - he might talk a game that convinces you but some people can see beyond alot of his press conference bulls***.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Southampton_Eagle At the after party 24 Oct 16 8.40pm
Originally posted by Mr_Flow I can see where the OP is coming from. However, we're sitting mid-table and until we start to drop down the league, I don't really think it's the time to start pointing the finger at the manager. I think the key thing here is expectation. What do people really expect and what would they regard as a good season? For me, avoiding a relegation battle and finishing 8-12 is a good season. We're on track to do that, so I think the team/manager is doing a good job. Also, we're a team that's in transition. On Saturday, we controlled the game for long periods, and with better finishing, it would have been a completely different game. For the past few seasons, we had one system and one way of playing. We also used to chase the game for the vast majority of it. It's refreshing to see us changing and we won't be the finished article overnight. I think we're pretty much on par for this season so far and hopefully this will continue. Spot on.
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At the after party 24 Oct 16 8.40pm

Originally posted by Mr_Flow

I can see where the OP is coming from. However, we're sitting mid-table and until we start to drop down the league, I don't really think it's the time to start pointing the finger at the manager.

I think the key thing here is expectation. What do people really expect and what would they regard as a good season? For me, avoiding a relegation battle and finishing 8-12 is a good season. We're on track to do that, so I think the team/manager is doing a good job.

Also, we're a team that's in transition. On Saturday, we controlled the game for long periods, and with better finishing, it would have been a completely different game. For the past few seasons, we had one system and one way of playing. We also used to chase the game for the vast majority of it. It's refreshing to see us changing and we won't be the finished article overnight.

I think we're pretty much on par for this season so far and hopefully this will continue.

Spot on.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 24 Oct 16 9.00pm
Originally posted by rikz We are an average prem team, we will win some, lose some and draw some, what's the problem ? this is in my eyes the correct answer. as long as we do enough to stay inthe league after 38 games everybody gets to keep living the "premier league dream" werr currently averaging over a point a game which will do me nicely come may. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Originally posted by rikz

We are an average prem team, we will win some, lose some and draw some, what's the problem ?

this is in my eyes the correct answer.

as long as we do enough to stay inthe league after 38 games everybody gets to keep living the "premier league dream"

werr currently averaging over a point a game which will do me nicely come may.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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EagleinSF San Fransisco 24 Oct 16 9.17pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez but ON PAPER they are not that superior at all Trouble is that football isn't played on paper, its played on the pitch. We beat teams that are better than us 'on paper' (liverpool/chelski) but lose to ones who are worse (sunderland/villa) Also the comparisons 'on paper' are pretty subjective and mostly pointless. There's a lot more to football than an expensive squad of 'names'
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San Fransisco 24 Oct 16 9.17pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez
but ON PAPER they are not that superior at all

Trouble is that football isn't played on paper, its played on the pitch. We beat teams that are better than us 'on paper' (liverpool/chelski) but lose to ones who are worse (sunderland/villa)

Also the comparisons 'on paper' are pretty subjective and mostly pointless. There's a lot more to football than an expensive squad of 'names'

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