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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 11 Jul 16 6.50pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
They only found it after they had restrained him though. If you shoot people that might be armed you shoot a lot of unarmed people. Around 61 per cent of black males shot by the police are unarmed. Which means that 39% of black males shot by police were armed.
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7mins In the bush 11 Jul 16 7.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Which means that 39% of black males shot by police were armed. The unarmed stat is a strange one.... A man beating the s*** out of copper is unarmed.... A man wrestling to grab a coppers gun is unarmed
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jul 16 7.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Which means that 39% of black males shot by police were armed. In a right to bear arms kinda society...
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 11 Jul 16 8.42pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
In a right to bear arms kinda society...
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7mins In the bush 11 Jul 16 8.52pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
In a right to bear arms kinda society... Nick.... Very few Americans walk around strapped.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Jul 16 9.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Which means that 39% of black males shot by police were armed. Yes. But it does mean a worrying tendency to use lethal weapons on those not presenting or threat of lethal force
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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Jul 16 9.38pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
The unarmed stat is a strange one.... A man beating the s*** out of copper is unarmed.... A man wrestling to grab a coppers gun is unarmed In the second instance that would be armed. Granted someone beating the s*** out of someone is a threat but one where the use of a taser or nightstick is a very viable option over shooting which could easily end up wounding the victim
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jul 16 10.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Do you know many Americans. My mate has just come back from 5 years as a diplomat in Texas. He reckons they take their right to bear arms literally and are always 'packing'
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SloveniaDave Tirana, Albania 12 Jul 16 12.08am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you know many Americans. My mate has just come back from 5 years as a diplomat in Texas. He reckons they take their right to bear arms literally and are always 'packing' Now that would be a seriously interesting job!
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Jul 16 1.32am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you know many Americans. My mate has just come back from 5 years as a diplomat in Texas. He reckons they take their right to bear arms literally and are always 'packing' That's in Texas. Once again I don't think you realize how enormous this country really is? Its like saying the weather is the same in Ireland as it is in Turkey. Try getting a gun legally in NY State legally nigh on impossible. Weapon of choice in most parts of the Bronx is a Pitbull anyway!!
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NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Jul 16 2.55am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Given that only around a third of households are reported to have guns (including hunting households and farmers), that sounds like a huge exaggeration. As Jimenez said, that's also Texas where gun ownership is far more common than it is up in New England (for example). Having lived in gun friendly states (Texas, Kansas, and Vermont), I can honestly say I met very few people who ever 'packed' a gun. I know a bunch of people who hunt, and quite a few who shoot as a sport (mostly targets at a range), but I know very few who carry a firearm. Much like the current debate on these boards, most of what is written is hyperbole or second hand anecdotal. As for the matter in hand, the police a far too militarized and too ready to pull a firearm in a confrontation. As President Obama pointed out last week (loosely paraphrased), that might be no surprise given the sea of guns and crime in some of the communities the police are tasked with maintaining order. He did not condone poor policing, neither did he excuse it.
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7mins In the bush 12 Jul 16 8.25am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
In the second instance that would be armed. Granted someone beating the s*** out of someone is a threat but one where the use of a taser or nightstick is a very viable option over shooting which could easily end up wounding the victim If I'm in a fight with someone for my life, and I have a taser, stick and a gun... I'm using the gun. The liberal left (of which I admire on many issues) are as much a threat to black people in the USA as the far right are.
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