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jamiemartin721 Reading 18 May 16 6.32pm | |
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Although, its besides the point. People with nationalist beliefs should not be taking an unelected US candidates side over a democratically elected UK official representative. That's bloody treason I tell yas.
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Stirlingsays 18 May 16 6.38pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Not true and lazy. If you had actually been reading my posts I said that those who consider themselves English are English in my book regardless of colour. I included that in my main point about the English being in the minority. The fact that a significant number of people born in England don't consider themselves English is a significant failure of multiculturalism which has given us multiple problems.
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Stirlingsays 18 May 16 6.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I wonder what people like Punch, Zaha, Kaikai or Boateng would think id they read some of these threads. It's not exactly a stretch to think some of their family might. Or are they different? How does this post relate to what I wrote?
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Jamesrichards8 18 May 16 7.17pm | |
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This post is depressing the s*** out of me. Because of the multicultural s*** mess that London is in. And people wonder why Americans love trump. Is it so racist to not want to lose your country's culture and heritage? And the people who claim trump is racist are victims of the propaganda of the liberal media. How is an end to illegal immigration racist? How is stemming the flow of Arabs to protect your country from unidentified terrorists racist? A lot of anti-trump people are very ignorant. I urge you to look at his earlier television appearances in the 1980s, when asked political questions. His answers not only provide excessive insight into his beliefs and desires for the country, but they also predict several huge future events, like the recession and the gulf war. He seems a very intelligent man. My mother is American and I hold dual citizenship- UK and USA. I'm voting trump
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leifandersonshair Newport 18 May 16 7.29pm | |
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The thing is, what are 'British culture' and 'British values?' Ask 10 people, you'll get 20 different answers! Most people know nothing about the history of this country- does that make them not British? You ask 10 white British teenagers what the Magna Carta is you'll more than likely get 10 blank looks. Are they not British because of it? I hate cricket, and Wimbledon- the tennis, not the place Some might argue that these 2 things are as intrinsically British as they come. Basically, there are very few things that most people would agree make up what it is to be British. 2 people talking about British values may well be talking at completely cross purposes- as an example, the Daily Mail and the Guardian could both write lead articles on 'what it means to be British'- probably find very few points of agreement, but have plenty of people agreeing with both sides. The Guardian might say multiculturalism and tolerance are the epitome of British values- the Daily Mail would probably disagree! And yet plenty of people would agree with both.
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glory 18 May 16 7.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
This post is depressing the s*** out of me. Because of the multicultural s*** mess that London is in. And people wonder why Americans love trump. Is it so racist to not want to lose your country's culture and heritage? And the people who claim trump is racist are victims of the propaganda of the liberal media. How is an end to illegal immigration racist? How is stemming the flow of Arabs to protect your country from unidentified terrorists racist? A lot of anti-trump people are very ignorant. I urge you to look at his earlier television appearances in the 1980s, when asked political questions. His answers not only provide excessive insight into his beliefs and desires for the country, but they also predict several huge future events, like the recession and the gulf war. He seems a very intelligent man. My mother is American and I hold dual citizenship- UK and USA. I'm voting trump Do you honestly believe that Trump plans on building a mile high wall or stopping all Muslims from entering the States for a period of time? He's just said what he needed to say to win the Republican nomination since it's a party that in a weakened state. Trump isn't all that conservative or nationalistic at all. Fast forward a month and you'll hear no mention of banning Muslims or any of that stuff. By all means vote for him but at the same time understand when you're being played. His intelligence isn't in believing the rabble rousing stuff he's come out with, it's in knowing how to reduce and shape complicated and nuanced issues in such a way that appeals to peoples fears or prejudices. Edited by glory (18 May 2016 8.58pm)
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Jamesrichards8 18 May 16 9.38pm | |
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Originally posted by glory
Do you honestly believe that Trump plans on building a mile high wall or stopping all Muslims from entering the States for a period of time? He's just said what he needed to say to win the Republican nomination since it's a party that in a weakened state. Trump isn't all that conservative or nationalistic at all. Fast forward a month and you'll hear no mention of banning Muslims or any of that stuff. By all means vote for him but at the same time understand when you're being played. His intelligence isn't in believing the rabble rousing stuff he's come out with, it's in knowing how to reduce and shape complicated and nuanced issues in such a way that appeals to peoples fears or prejudices. Edited by glory (18 May 2016 8.58pm) I'm sorry but, again, you're simply believing the propaganda proliferated by the Liberal-biased media. They've crafted an image of Trump as a maniacal crowd-reader who is manipulating the mind of the simple voter by espousing lies and deceit. In actuality, these are his real views. The reason i know this? Look at his interviews from the 1980's. His views have NOT changed. He simply embodies the viewpoints of the common man. Which is reflected in polls and the primaries. Additionally, the media has crafted an image of the trump voter as an ignorant, unintelligent bigot, so that they can guilt people into silence. I will vote for Trump, via absentee ballot. I am in my second year of university, studying political science. My views are my own, and they are resultants of research and original thought.
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legaleagle 18 May 16 9.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
Look at his interviews from the 1980's. His views have NOT changed. I am in my second year of university, studying political science. My views are my own, and they are resultants of research and original thought. Its a pity your research and original thought have not led you to realise quite how much dear Donald flips and flops in his views to suit the audience at hand/situation he's in: 2000 2016 SEPT. 2015 NOV. 2015 2015 Health care Abortion rights FEB. 22, 2016 MARCH 30 NY Times
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Mapletree Croydon 18 May 16 9.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
I'm sorry but, again, you're simply believing the propaganda proliferated by the Liberal-biased media. They've crafted an image of Trump as a maniacal crowd-reader who is manipulating the mind of the simple voter by espousing lies and deceit. In actuality, these are his real views. The reason i know this? Look at his interviews from the 1980's. His views have NOT changed. He simply embodies the viewpoints of the common man. Which is reflected in polls and the primaries. Additionally, the media has crafted an image of the trump voter as an ignorant, unintelligent bigot, so that they can guilt people into silence. I will vote for Trump, via absentee ballot. I am in my second year of university, studying political science. My views are my own, and they are resultants of research and original thought. Great point. Trump simply embodies the viewpoints of the common man. No irony there then. By the way, resultant doesn't take an S in this context. Blo*dy students.
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glory 18 May 16 9.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
I'm sorry but, again, you're simply believing the propaganda proliferated by the Liberal-biased media. They've crafted an image of Trump as a maniacal crowd-reader who is manipulating the mind of the simple voter by espousing lies and deceit. In actuality, these are his real views. The reason i know this? Look at his interviews from the 1980's. His views have NOT changed. He simply embodies the viewpoints of the common man. Which is reflected in polls and the primaries. Additionally, the media has crafted an image of the trump voter as an ignorant, unintelligent bigot, so that they can guilt people into silence. I will vote for Trump, via absentee ballot. I am in my second year of university, studying political science. My views are my own, and they are resultants of research and original thought. Actually it's the liberal media that wants us to think that he does believe these things because it serves their interests. It's aspects of the conservative media uncomfortable with him being the face of the party that would prefer we believe he's just paying lip service to actual conservative beliefs. All I can say is wait and see. It's beyond clear that 'the magnificent wall paid for by Mexicans' will never materialise. It was just easy to digest idea that played well with voters so he used it. The Muslim ban too, he will back away from because now he has to appeal to the wider public. He's a politician, it's about what plays well and at the time this stuff formed part of a republican primaries strategy. Now that is less relevant. None of these things will ever happen. Our opinions really do not matter because the facts will be the facts.
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 May 16 10.41pm | |
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Donald Trump is a self serving politician like almost every politician before him.
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glory 18 May 16 10.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Donald Trump is a self serving politician like almost every politician before him. That sums it up nicely.
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