Whilst it may well be presumptuous (As I said I may be mistaken but I am fairly sure I have heard it mentioned several times) I am not sure that you can dismiss it.

I think we all agree that the Islam that IS is claiming to preach is for want of a better phrase, a distortion of true Islam (yes as mentioned, I am aware that there are various branches)it plays on existing beliefs and uses them to their own ends.

Setting up of a Caliphate and ridding it of non believers & blasphemers are examples of that.

As for your last paragraph I am not really sure what you are getting at, I certainly haven't said it's all about the west. What we do need to do though is make it less attractive for people to go to Syria to join IS. That can only be achieved through education and severe penalties for those that do go. Given the suspicion of the authorities from within the Muslim community the solution needs to come from within.

Indeed Danno - totally agree with all of that.

Especially the revoking of citizenship...born here or otherwise.

What has bemused me of late is these stupid bints who decided they would like to take their children and live in a dark age culture and war zone and the rather blurry, happy clappy line about the police 'engaging with them' and being 'worried' about them - why ???

f*** em...they have made a choice - let them live with the consequences of it.

I had experience of a muslim 'sect' over a number of years through the charity work they did. Big on tolerance and integration their main mosque in pakistan had the living s*** blasted out of it by AQ a few years back killing lots of the friends and relatives of people I had met.

Demonising an entire religion wont beat ISIS - drawing the wider Muslim world in will

Revoking citizenship is an absurd idea when dealing with people born in the UK, as its unworkable, where would you return them to. Its not as if you can say 'Here Turkey, have this terrorist back, because they'll simply refuse to have them, as they don't have Turkish citizenship'.

The UK has an issue with Daesh / IS, but our problem fades in comparison to those threatened by, over run by or otherwise in direct confrontational proximity to this death cult.

Revoking citizenship is an absurd idea when dealing with people born in the UK, as its unworkable, where would you return them to. Its not as if you can say 'Here Turkey, have this terrorist back, because they'll simply refuse to have them, as they don't have Turkish citizenship'.

The UK has an issue with Daesh / IS, but our problem fades in comparison to those threatened by, over run by or otherwise in direct confrontational proximity to this death cult.

I think after events of this weekend IS should be talked about separately to Islam, whilst their religion is that of Islam it is clear that it is not a version followed by the majority of peaceful Muslims, one of LCpl's at work for example.

Lets not forget at the same time British tourists were killed so were 30 odd Muslims blown to s*** in their own mosque in Kuwait.

I will also admit that my initial reaction on here, was a bit knee jerk, but essentially the sentiment of ignore it and will go away, from the post I was commenting on, is the worst thing we can do, it will get worse if we dont do something.

However the tolerance that is shown to Choudry and his ilk beggars belief, if I was to ask a copper to take off a wrist band and get shirty I would be arrested, but because he's a, a Muslim, and b, a dick head he gets away with it.

My opinion, for a kick off, anyone who leaves this country to fight for IS never gets back in, and border control should mean that, control of our borders.

No, I'd try them for Terrorist offences, as they have a universal jurisdiction, and if found guilty, send them to prison, or if more suitable to the country involved extradite them to stand trial in that country.

Costing the tax payer more money, and putting an (once convicted) already radicalised individual into an eviroment where they will be taken under the wing of the other Muslims and radicalised even further. Not really your best idea J old buddy.

As for being extardited to Syria to stand tril for terrorist offences, your either being naive (which your not) or youve just not thought it through, again unlikley, so I'm going with liberal bollocks

Also you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a) they were in Syria b) they were part of IS. A lot of people are in Syria with NGO, aid workers and with non-IS rebel factions.

Aid workers that go into hostile countrys are all registered with the appropriate charities as per the geneva convention. I would wager your average semtex enthusiast would not be registered. ALL passports now have micro chips in them which record countries you've visited, when I ever I go on holiday and they scan mine it raises a few eyebrows, especially when I went to New York, I thought the dude was going to s*** himself in short mate its easy to trace peoples where abouts in this day and age. Tracking mobile phones is old news, I'm not going to discuss intelligence technology on here, but trust me it's very very good.

Travelling overseas for the purpose of terrorism is a crime in the UK, with up to a life sentence. We should implement this, or deport them to stand trial in a country in which they have been involved in terrorism.

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Turkey would then just put them on a plane back, refusing them entry, as they don't have Turkish citizenship.

I dont think so, Turkey at the moment need Europe, It doesnt need them, if NATO make it law that terrorists that try to return are refused entry to any other country than that which was thier last destination. It's only a short term fix, but ring fence the bloody country. (Syria)

Turkey isn't really too fussed about IS as its focused against their enemy the Kurds.

Then they should be made to. As should pakistan a known haven for IS and AQ.

This I definitely agree with. I don't like them, but just refusing them entry to the UK, isn't an option.

Yes it is.