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rcmeagle Flag Bromley 06 May 15 7.41pm Send a Private Message to rcmeagle Add rcmeagle as a friend

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Well, our team sheet will be a bit thin if he has any influence over the team sheet.

Exactly! He's just a milder version of Nick Griffin.


Sorry brother but that is absolute rubbish. Nigel Farage is not a racist it’s morons like you and your friends that damage free speech. Mass emigration is good for the economy only because it drives wages through the floor, thus the people at the top are laughing all the way to the bank. We keep hearing how strong our economy is but life is and pay is getting worse for millions of people. The idea that British people wouldn’t do the jobs is rubbish, they can’t afford to. The majority of workers from abroad are living in house shares in rubbish conditions, 8 or 9 people in a 3 bedroom sending all the money back home, one day they will walk away to early retirement with a house and a nice retirement pot in their home countries. Where as for the English people earning minimum wage in London those horrible living conditions are not a means to an end they are just life for the long term. I am placed in a unique position as I have a lot of close friends from the Slovak and polish communities due to work. My good friend has been here for 10 years in that time he has had himself a house built in Slovakia and saved up enough money to retire by the time he is 40 and go and live the good life back home, all this on a wage that you couldn’t even rent a one bedroom flat with in and around London. Labour opened up the doors to mass emigration and knowing the backlash it would cause they cooked up a campaign which made even brining the issue up very controversial with words like racist being bounced around. This was admitted by the man who made a lot of the race relations laws and was a figure head behind this campaign his name is Trevor Phillips. He now admits they got it wrong and regrets it. People feel gagged by fear of being accused of being racist. The only thing I wish farage did more was make clear the a@@holes that are exploiting the immigrants and driving wages way down through the floor are the ones we should be focusing on not the people that are coming here to create a better life for them and their families. Because after all that’s what we all want , the best life possible. But the middle class don’t care because it’s not affecting them people that say stuff like’’ it’s good because I can get my house painted for half the price’’ yet they would be the first moaning if their wages were driven though the floor and their quality of life went down the toilet.


Good post, won't be liked by many on here.

Likewise - you describe the situation very well. Now lets wait for the convoluted nonsense that will be churned out to try to blur the picture. (Just noticed that Nickgussett has already answered with some feeble references to Jim Davidson and Frank Bruno!)


Edited by derben (06 May 2015 6.18pm)

For a 'new' poster, I think it's lovely that you take such an interest in me.

I thought the description of our emigration problem was way wide of the mark. If we want net migration figures to go the way of reducing our population, we have to work harder to make people want to leave.


I didn't see your concern when the 'new' poster iambored (Think) abused me.

Why could that be?


Cos I think you're a t*** and couldn't give 2 s***s perhaps.

Who do you think imbored is? Answer the question. You haven't got enough spunk to answer have you? That speaks volumes.


Edited by nickgusset (06 May 2015 7.27pm)

I know there is much more to the problem/debate than in my post which just scratched the surface. But my primary point was the term racist being attached to anybody that voices concerns or talks negatively about emigration. You often hear it in debates people arrogantly shouting down anyone that expresses anti mass emigration views with words like bigot, racist fascist. And because people don’t want them terms undeservedly attached to them you have a gagging affect. But people still hold them views that is why you have seen the rise of UKIP. Ironically it seems to me that the lefties seem to be the biggest bigots.
Definition of Bigot: a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.
Look it up my friends.
By the way I am not anti emigration, there is nothing but positives to be gained from tapping into the best talent the world has to offer, just look at our team (: But we need a controlled fair system where we get the people we need, not just anybody that wants to come. I’e the very successful Australian points style system.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 May 15 7.45pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 7.41pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 7.24pm

Quote matt_himself at 06 May 2015 7.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 6.47pm

Quote derben at 06 May 2015 6.17pm

Quote elgrande at 06 May 2015 6.10pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote PsychoPaul at 02 May 2015 9.33am

Quote taylors lovechild at 02 May 2015 8.16am

Well, our team sheet will be a bit thin if he has any influence over the team sheet.

Exactly! He's just a milder version of Nick Griffin.


Sorry brother but that is absolute rubbish. Nigel Farage is not a racist it’s morons like you and your friends that damage free speech. Mass emigration is good for the economy only because it drives wages through the floor, thus the people at the top are laughing all the way to the bank. We keep hearing how strong our economy is but life is and pay is getting worse for millions of people. The idea that British people wouldn’t do the jobs is rubbish, they can’t afford to. The majority of workers from abroad are living in house shares in rubbish conditions, 8 or 9 people in a 3 bedroom sending all the money back home, one day they will walk away to early retirement with a house and a nice retirement pot in their home countries. Where as for the English people earning minimum wage in London those horrible living conditions are not a means to an end they are just life for the long term. I am placed in a unique position as I have a lot of close friends from the Slovak and polish communities due to work. My good friend has been here for 10 years in that time he has had himself a house built in Slovakia and saved up enough money to retire by the time he is 40 and go and live the good life back home, all this on a wage that you couldn’t even rent a one bedroom flat with in and around London. Labour opened up the doors to mass emigration and knowing the backlash it would cause they cooked up a campaign which made even brining the issue up very controversial with words like racist being bounced around. This was admitted by the man who made a lot of the race relations laws and was a figure head behind this campaign his name is Trevor Phillips. He now admits they got it wrong and regrets it. People feel gagged by fear of being accused of being racist. The only thing I wish farage did more was make clear the a@@holes that are exploiting the immigrants and driving wages way down through the floor are the ones we should be focusing on not the people that are coming here to create a better life for them and their families. Because after all that’s what we all want , the best life possible. But the middle class don’t care because it’s not affecting them people that say stuff like’’ it’s good because I can get my house painted for half the price’’ yet they would be the first moaning if their wages were driven though the floor and their quality of life went down the toilet.


Good post, won't be liked by many on here.

Likewise - you describe the situation very well. Now lets wait for the convoluted nonsense that will be churned out to try to blur the picture. (Just noticed that Nickgussett has already answered with some feeble references to Jim Davidson and Frank Bruno!)


Edited by derben (06 May 2015 6.18pm)

For a 'new' poster, I think it's lovely that you take such an interest in me.

I thought the description of our emigration problem was way wide of the mark. If we want net migration figures to go the way of reducing our population, we have to work harder to make people want to leave.


I didn't see your concern when the 'new' poster iambored (Think) abused me.

Why could that be?


Cos I think you're a t*** and couldn't give 2 s***s perhaps.

Who do you think imbored is? Answer the question. You haven't got enough spunk to answer have you? That speaks volumes.


Edited by nickgusset (06 May 2015 7.27pm)

I know there is much more to the problem/debate than in my post which just scratched the surface. But my primary point was the term racist being attached to anybody that voices concerns or talks negatively about emigration. You often hear it in debates people arrogantly shouting down anyone that expresses anti mass emigration views with words like bigot, racist fascist. And because people don’t want them terms undeservedly attached to them you have a gagging affect. But people still hold them views that is why you have seen the rise of UKIP. Ironically it seems to me that the lefties seem to be the biggest bigots.
Definition of Bigot: a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.
Look it up my friends.
By the way I am not anti emigration, there is nothing but positives to be gained from tapping into the best talent the world has to offer, just look at our team (: But we need a controlled fair system where we get the people we need, not just anybody that wants to come. I’e the very successful Australian points style system.


Immigration is the word you are looking for.

 

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crystal balls Flag The Garden of Earthly Delights 06 May 15 7.49pm Send a Private Message to crystal balls Add crystal balls as a friend

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 7.41pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 7.24pm

Quote matt_himself at 06 May 2015 7.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 6.47pm

Quote derben at 06 May 2015 6.17pm

Quote elgrande at 06 May 2015 6.10pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote PsychoPaul at 02 May 2015 9.33am

Quote taylors lovechild at 02 May 2015 8.16am

Well, our team sheet will be a bit thin if he has any influence over the team sheet.

Exactly! He's just a milder version of Nick Griffin.


Sorry brother but that is absolute rubbish. Nigel Farage is not a racist it’s morons like you and your friends that damage free speech. Mass emigration is good for the economy only because it drives wages through the floor, thus the people at the top are laughing all the way to the bank. We keep hearing how strong our economy is but life is and pay is getting worse for millions of people. The idea that British people wouldn’t do the jobs is rubbish, they can’t afford to. The majority of workers from abroad are living in house shares in rubbish conditions, 8 or 9 people in a 3 bedroom sending all the money back home, one day they will walk away to early retirement with a house and a nice retirement pot in their home countries. Where as for the English people earning minimum wage in London those horrible living conditions are not a means to an end they are just life for the long term. I am placed in a unique position as I have a lot of close friends from the Slovak and polish communities due to work. My good friend has been here for 10 years in that time he has had himself a house built in Slovakia and saved up enough money to retire by the time he is 40 and go and live the good life back home, all this on a wage that you couldn’t even rent a one bedroom flat with in and around London. Labour opened up the doors to mass emigration and knowing the backlash it would cause they cooked up a campaign which made even brining the issue up very controversial with words like racist being bounced around. This was admitted by the man who made a lot of the race relations laws and was a figure head behind this campaign his name is Trevor Phillips. He now admits they got it wrong and regrets it. People feel gagged by fear of being accused of being racist. The only thing I wish farage did more was make clear the a@@holes that are exploiting the immigrants and driving wages way down through the floor are the ones we should be focusing on not the people that are coming here to create a better life for them and their families. Because after all that’s what we all want , the best life possible. But the middle class don’t care because it’s not affecting them people that say stuff like’’ it’s good because I can get my house painted for half the price’’ yet they would be the first moaning if their wages were driven though the floor and their quality of life went down the toilet.


Good post, won't be liked by many on here.

Likewise - you describe the situation very well. Now lets wait for the convoluted nonsense that will be churned out to try to blur the picture. (Just noticed that Nickgussett has already answered with some feeble references to Jim Davidson and Frank Bruno!)


Edited by derben (06 May 2015 6.18pm)

For a 'new' poster, I think it's lovely that you take such an interest in me.

I thought the description of our emigration problem was way wide of the mark. If we want net migration figures to go the way of reducing our population, we have to work harder to make people want to leave.


I didn't see your concern when the 'new' poster iambored (Think) abused me.

Why could that be?


Cos I think you're a t*** and couldn't give 2 s***s perhaps.

Who do you think imbored is? Answer the question. You haven't got enough spunk to answer have you? That speaks volumes.


Edited by nickgusset (06 May 2015 7.27pm)

I know there is much more to the problem/debate than in my post which just scratched the surface. But my primary point was the term racist being attached to anybody that voices concerns or talks negatively about emigration. You often hear it in debates people arrogantly shouting down anyone that expresses anti mass emigration views with words like bigot, racist fascist. And because people don’t want them terms undeservedly attached to them you have a gagging affect. But people still hold them views that is why you have seen the rise of UKIP. Ironically it seems to me that the lefties seem to be the biggest bigots.
Definition of Bigot: a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.
Look it up my friends.
By the way I am not anti emigration, there is nothing but positives to be gained from tapping into the best talent the world has to offer, just look at our team (: But we need a controlled fair system where we get the people we need, not just anybody that wants to come. I’e the very successful Australian points style system.


Sorry mate, but emigration is people leaving,
immigration is people arriving. You otherwise make your point very well. I don't agree, that's the basis for debate.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 06 May 15 7.53pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 7.24pm

Quote matt_himself at 06 May 2015 7.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 6.47pm

Quote derben at 06 May 2015 6.17pm

Quote elgrande at 06 May 2015 6.10pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote PsychoPaul at 02 May 2015 9.33am

Quote taylors lovechild at 02 May 2015 8.16am

Well, our team sheet will be a bit thin if he has any influence over the team sheet.

Exactly! He's just a milder version of Nick Griffin.


Sorry brother but that is absolute rubbish. Nigel Farage is not a racist it’s morons like you and your friends that damage free speech. Mass emigration is good for the economy only because it drives wages through the floor, thus the people at the top are laughing all the way to the bank. We keep hearing how strong our economy is but life is and pay is getting worse for millions of people. The idea that British people wouldn’t do the jobs is rubbish, they can’t afford to. The majority of workers from abroad are living in house shares in rubbish conditions, 8 or 9 people in a 3 bedroom sending all the money back home, one day they will walk away to early retirement with a house and a nice retirement pot in their home countries. Where as for the English people earning minimum wage in London those horrible living conditions are not a means to an end they are just life for the long term. I am placed in a unique position as I have a lot of close friends from the Slovak and polish communities due to work. My good friend has been here for 10 years in that time he has had himself a house built in Slovakia and saved up enough money to retire by the time he is 40 and go and live the good life back home, all this on a wage that you couldn’t even rent a one bedroom flat with in and around London. Labour opened up the doors to mass emigration and knowing the backlash it would cause they cooked up a campaign which made even brining the issue up very controversial with words like racist being bounced around. This was admitted by the man who made a lot of the race relations laws and was a figure head behind this campaign his name is Trevor Phillips. He now admits they got it wrong and regrets it. People feel gagged by fear of being accused of being racist. The only thing I wish farage did more was make clear the a@@holes that are exploiting the immigrants and driving wages way down through the floor are the ones we should be focusing on not the people that are coming here to create a better life for them and their families. Because after all that’s what we all want , the best life possible. But the middle class don’t care because it’s not affecting them people that say stuff like’’ it’s good because I can get my house painted for half the price’’ yet they would be the first moaning if their wages were driven though the floor and their quality of life went down the toilet.


Good post, won't be liked by many on here.

Likewise - you describe the situation very well. Now lets wait for the convoluted nonsense that will be churned out to try to blur the picture. (Just noticed that Nickgussett has already answered with some feeble references to Jim Davidson and Frank Bruno!)


Edited by derben (06 May 2015 6.18pm)

For a 'new' poster, I think it's lovely that you take such an interest in me.

I thought the description of our emigration problem was way wide of the mark. If we want net migration figures to go the way of reducing our population, we have to work harder to make people want to leave.


I didn't see your concern when the 'new' poster iambored (Think) abused me.

Why could that be?


Cos I think you're a t*** and couldn't give 2 s***s perhaps.

Who do you think imbored is? Answer the question. You haven't got enough spunk to answer have you? That speaks volumes.


Edited by nickgusset (06 May 2015 7.27pm)


I don't know who 'Think' is.

All I know is that he is a troll.

You seem bothered about this. Why could that be?

 


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rcmeagle Flag Bromley 06 May 15 7.56pm Send a Private Message to rcmeagle Add rcmeagle as a friend

not really
emigration means to leave one's country.
Immigration is to come.
So immigration, emigration doesn't matter it's people leaving one country to move to another. And is that all you have a narky little comment. Fans like you my friend is why we got the nickname Nigels (:
Instead of debating you would just rather chip in with crap like that.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 May 15 7.56pm

Quote matt_himself at 06 May 2015 7.53pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 7.24pm

Quote matt_himself at 06 May 2015 7.14pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 6.47pm

Quote derben at 06 May 2015 6.17pm

Quote elgrande at 06 May 2015 6.10pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 4.37pm

Quote PsychoPaul at 02 May 2015 9.33am

Quote taylors lovechild at 02 May 2015 8.16am

Well, our team sheet will be a bit thin if he has any influence over the team sheet.

Exactly! He's just a milder version of Nick Griffin.


Sorry brother but that is absolute rubbish. Nigel Farage is not a racist it’s morons like you and your friends that damage free speech. Mass emigration is good for the economy only because it drives wages through the floor, thus the people at the top are laughing all the way to the bank. We keep hearing how strong our economy is but life is and pay is getting worse for millions of people. The idea that British people wouldn’t do the jobs is rubbish, they can’t afford to. The majority of workers from abroad are living in house shares in rubbish conditions, 8 or 9 people in a 3 bedroom sending all the money back home, one day they will walk away to early retirement with a house and a nice retirement pot in their home countries. Where as for the English people earning minimum wage in London those horrible living conditions are not a means to an end they are just life for the long term. I am placed in a unique position as I have a lot of close friends from the Slovak and polish communities due to work. My good friend has been here for 10 years in that time he has had himself a house built in Slovakia and saved up enough money to retire by the time he is 40 and go and live the good life back home, all this on a wage that you couldn’t even rent a one bedroom flat with in and around London. Labour opened up the doors to mass emigration and knowing the backlash it would cause they cooked up a campaign which made even brining the issue up very controversial with words like racist being bounced around. This was admitted by the man who made a lot of the race relations laws and was a figure head behind this campaign his name is Trevor Phillips. He now admits they got it wrong and regrets it. People feel gagged by fear of being accused of being racist. The only thing I wish farage did more was make clear the a@@holes that are exploiting the immigrants and driving wages way down through the floor are the ones we should be focusing on not the people that are coming here to create a better life for them and their families. Because after all that’s what we all want , the best life possible. But the middle class don’t care because it’s not affecting them people that say stuff like’’ it’s good because I can get my house painted for half the price’’ yet they would be the first moaning if their wages were driven though the floor and their quality of life went down the toilet.


Good post, won't be liked by many on here.

Likewise - you describe the situation very well. Now lets wait for the convoluted nonsense that will be churned out to try to blur the picture. (Just noticed that Nickgussett has already answered with some feeble references to Jim Davidson and Frank Bruno!)


Edited by derben (06 May 2015 6.18pm)

For a 'new' poster, I think it's lovely that you take such an interest in me.

I thought the description of our emigration problem was way wide of the mark. If we want net migration figures to go the way of reducing our population, we have to work harder to make people want to leave.


I didn't see your concern when the 'new' poster iambored (Think) abused me.

Why could that be?


Cos I think you're a t*** and couldn't give 2 s***s perhaps.

Who do you think imbored is? Answer the question. You haven't got enough spunk to answer have you? That speaks volumes.


Edited by nickgusset (06 May 2015 7.27pm)


I don't know who 'Think' is.

All I know is that he is a troll.

You seem bothered about this. Why could that be?


What has lead you to the conclusion that I am bothered? Crystal meth?

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 06 May 15 7.57pm

Quote matt_himself at 06 May 2015 7.53pm

I don't know who 'Think' is.

All I know is that he is a troll.

You seem bothered about this. Why could that be?

Our keyboard warrior loses the balls,and backs down.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 May 15 7.57pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 7.56pm

not really
emigration means to leave one's country.
Immigration is to come.
So immigration, emigration doesn't matter it's people leaving one country to move to another. And is that all you have a narky little comment. Fans like you my friend is why we got the nickname Nigels (:
Instead of debating you would just rather chip in with crap like that.


Not really. But rather you were informed than keep repeating the wrong word.

 

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crystal balls Flag The Garden of Earthly Delights 06 May 15 8.05pm Send a Private Message to crystal balls Add crystal balls as a friend

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 7.56pm

not really
emigration means to leave one's country.
Immigration is to come.
So immigration, emigration doesn't matter it's people leaving one country to move to another. And is that all you have a narky little comment. Fans like you my friend is why we got the nickname Nigels (:
Instead of debating you would just rather chip in with crap like that.


I was trying to be kind to you; these terms are not interchangeable, they are specific in meaning. You obviously don't have any self awareness or you wouldn't keep on digging when you find your self at the bottom of a hole.

If you don't know something, look it up. It may make your opinions a bit more valid and less easy to ignore.

 


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rcmeagle Flag Bromley 06 May 15 8.07pm Send a Private Message to rcmeagle Add rcmeagle as a friend

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Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 7.56pm

not really
emigration means to leave one's country.
Immigration is to come.
So immigration, emigration doesn't matter it's people leaving one country to move to another. And is that all you have a narky little comment. Fans like you my friend is why we got the nickname Nigels (:
Instead of debating you would just rather chip in with crap like that.


Not really. But rather you were informed than keep repeating the wrong word.

Lol the fact is you understood my point. Wow I used the wrong word so of course I am not worth listening to.

 

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rcmeagle Flag Bromley 06 May 15 8.10pm Send a Private Message to rcmeagle Add rcmeagle as a friend

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Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 7.56pm

not really
emigration means to leave one's country.
Immigration is to come.
So immigration, emigration doesn't matter it's people leaving one country to move to another. And is that all you have a narky little comment. Fans like you my friend is why we got the nickname Nigels (:
Instead of debating you would just rather chip in with crap like that.


I was trying to be kind to you; these terms are not interchangeable, they are specific in meaning. You obviously don't have any self awareness or you wouldn't keep on digging when you find your self at the bottom of a hole.

If you don't know something, look it up. It may make your opinions a bit more valid and less easy to ignore.


That wasn't aimed at you. I understood you where just informing me. True what you say but a wrong use of word does not make my point any less valid. I am not rambling right wing crap or rhetoric. I am just merly putting a view across.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 May 15 8.13pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 8.07pm

Quote nickgusset at 06 May 2015 7.57pm

Quote rcmeagle at 06 May 2015 7.56pm

not really
emigration means to leave one's country.
Immigration is to come.
So immigration, emigration doesn't matter it's people leaving one country to move to another. And is that all you have a narky little comment. Fans like you my friend is why we got the nickname Nigels (:
Instead of debating you would just rather chip in with crap like that.


Not really. But rather you were informed than keep repeating the wrong word.

Lol the fact is you understood my point. Wow I used the wrong word so of course I am not worth listening to.


Didn't say that. But now you know the correct word, you are better of for it.

 

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