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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Apr 14 3.54pm
The 2 chums on here are the sort of people who'd take photos of their lady's cars parked just over the parking bay they've paid for and send them to the council. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 18 Apr 14 3.54pm

The 2 chums on here are the sort of people who'd take photos of their lady's cars parked just over the parking bay they've paid for and send them to the council.

COYP

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7@burnley79 Battersea 18 Apr 14 4.18pm
Quote eagleboi at 18 Apr 2014 1.34pm Quote bexleydave at 18 Apr 2014 1.28pm Quote eagleboi at 18 Apr 2014 1.09pm Quote SE25 at 18 Apr 2014 11.44am Quote eagleboi at 18 Apr 2014 11.28am Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.20am Yes, it may be difficult for some to understand the fact of accessory to a crime , but that is exactly how DF will be viewed by the authorities if he had not disclosed his knowledge of the message he'd received. I know it doesn't rate in the Brinks Matt shape of things, but crime it is. And if there is issue about where DF sent his information, it will have ended up with the authorities, so same rule applies. Slating a bloke for being honest is not where we should be coming from. Unless others believe dishonesty is ok. We must hope not, Great point. Why should he put his job on the line to save face.He has a Family to look after also.Can never have any bitterness to Doug after the many years of joy he has brought to my club. And how was he putting his job on the line ? What would be been guilty of ? Seeing a text? Jesus wept. DF could shag your wife and he'd still have been doing the right thing. Withholding info or denying info which can be easily traced by phone networks can easily be construed as peverting the course of justice, no? Any Lawyers amongst the HOL-osphere? I reckon lying about evidence in any case or not flagging it up could out you in a tad of trouble and the employment you're at could easily give you the tin tac. Jesus did weep. Don't worry, he still loves you. If DF did shag anyone's married missus he would be committing adultery. But thanks for that facetious point. No, because there are currently no ongoing proceedings (either criminal or civil) or police investigations to be 'perverted'. Some of us are getting a tad carried away Maybe so, but who is to say things are happening in private? Police investigations into the phone's texts? All I know is that if I were in the same situation I would like to think that I would be honest than jeopardise my job and thus bringing home the bacon for me Family. Fcuk trying to be labelled as bitter. Family first. You're more of a Man in my eyes if that is done imo. Im no lawyer, but at the time freedman alerted Emperor tan and OGS to the text, he had no idea that there would be this fall out with a premier league inquiry. So he did it because he wanted to out of spite or jealousy IMO. In a court of law if asked did he receive a text from a Palace employee with the team sheet on and he he didn't tell Cardiff, he couldn't be reprimanded anyway. Firstly Freedman isn't on trial and what on earth could you reprimand him on if he said" i didnt feel the need to forward this on as i saw it as a wind up" Therefore he did it out of spite.
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7@burnley79

Battersea 18 Apr 14 4.18pm

Quote eagleboi at 18 Apr 2014 1.34pm

Quote bexleydave at 18 Apr 2014 1.28pm

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Quote SE25 at 18 Apr 2014 11.44am

Quote eagleboi at 18 Apr 2014 11.28am

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.20am

Yes, it may be difficult for some to understand the fact of accessory to a crime , but that is exactly how DF will be viewed by the authorities if he had not disclosed his knowledge of the message he'd received. I know it doesn't rate in the Brinks Matt shape of things, but crime it is. And if there is issue about where DF sent his information, it will have ended up with the authorities, so same rule applies. Slating a bloke for being honest is not where we should be coming from. Unless others believe dishonesty is ok. We must hope not,

Great point. Why should he put his job on the line to save face.He has a Family to look after also.Can never have any bitterness to Doug after the many years of joy he has brought to my club.

And how was he putting his job on the line ?
What would be been guilty of ? Seeing a text?
Jesus wept.
DF could shag your wife and he'd still have been doing the right thing.

Withholding info or denying info which can be easily traced by phone networks can easily be construed as peverting the course of justice, no? Any Lawyers amongst the HOL-osphere? I reckon lying about evidence in any case or not flagging it up could out you in a tad of trouble and the employment you're at could easily give you the tin tac.

Jesus did weep. Don't worry, he still loves you.

If DF did shag anyone's married missus he would be committing adultery. But thanks for that facetious point.

No, because there are currently no ongoing proceedings (either criminal or civil) or police investigations to be 'perverted'. Some of us are getting a tad carried away

Maybe so, but who is to say things are happening in private? Police investigations into the phone's texts? All I know is that if I were in the same situation I would like to think that I would be honest than jeopardise my job and thus bringing home the bacon for me Family.

Fcuk trying to be labelled as bitter. Family first. You're more of a Man in my eyes if that is done imo.

Im no lawyer, but at the time freedman alerted Emperor tan and OGS to the text, he had no idea that there would be this fall out with a premier league inquiry. So he did it because he wanted to out of spite or jealousy IMO. In a court of law if asked did he receive a text from a Palace employee with the team sheet on and he he didn't tell Cardiff, he couldn't be reprimanded anyway. Firstly Freedman isn't on trial and what on earth could you reprimand him on if he said" i didnt feel the need to forward this on as i saw it as a wind up"
Therefore he did it out of spite.

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eagleboi Catford 18 Apr 14 4.19pm
Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Apr 2014 3.54pm The 2 chums on here are the sort of people who'd take photos of their lady's cars parked just over the parking bay they've paid for and send them to the council. Yeh, that's exactly right. How did you know? Any other facetious examples plucked out of the air? Pathetic. Grow up. Edited by eagleboi (18 Apr 2014 4.26pm)
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Catford 18 Apr 14 4.19pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 18 Apr 2014 3.54pm

The 2 chums on here are the sort of people who'd take photos of their lady's cars parked just over the parking bay they've paid for and send them to the council.

Yeh, that's exactly right. How did you know? Any other facetious examples plucked out of the air?

Pathetic. Grow up.

Edited by eagleboi (18 Apr 2014 4.26pm)

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.15pm
Quote SE25 at 18 Apr 2014 11.58am Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.49am Blimey, you still don't get it SE25 No -I can see the point you are trying to make - I just think it's absolute bollocks. BTW - why do cricketers need to pay for weather reports ? Several cricketers, an English captain among them, were prosecuted for receiving information about the weather on a tour on India. May I politely suggest you gen up on the question in discussion before you make any comments. It will give your arguments more credence.
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.15pm

Quote SE25 at 18 Apr 2014 11.58am

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.49am

Blimey, you still don't get it SE25

No -I can see the point you are trying to make - I just think it's absolute bollocks.
BTW - why do cricketers need to pay for weather reports ?

Several cricketers, an English captain among them, were prosecuted for receiving information about the weather on a tour on India. May I politely suggest you gen up on the question in discussion before you make any comments. It will give your arguments more credence.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.20pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am Yes they will be construed as criminal acts. Like cricketers paying for weather reports. This is because betting may be involved or something that may influence the outcome of a sporting event. See what is happening all over the sporting world to get this fact. If any club are seen to breach the rules in any way, it can be seen as criminal. Of course common law will not be infringed as this is not statuary and often involves civil law, making it a case for only NGOs to enforce within their remit. Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing. It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now?
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.20pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am

Yes they will be construed as criminal acts. Like cricketers paying for weather reports. This is because betting may be involved or something that may influence the outcome of a sporting event. See what is happening all over the sporting world to get this fact. If any club are seen to breach the rules in any way, it can be seen as criminal. Of course common law will not be infringed as this is not statuary and often involves civil law, making it a case for only NGOs to enforce within their remit.

Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing.

It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now?

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glazedallover Allier 18 Apr 14 5.24pm
Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.20pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am Yes they will be construed as criminal acts. Like cricketers paying for weather reports. This is because betting may be involved or something that may influence the outcome of a sporting event. See what is happening all over the sporting world to get this fact. If any club are seen to breach the rules in any way, it can be seen as criminal. Of course common law will not be infringed as this is not statuary and often involves civil law, making it a case for only NGOs to enforce within their remit. Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing. It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now? Bollox. If he didn't report it to the league, he should have escalated it within Bolton. telling a 'mate' or anyone else for that matter is not "Reporting" it.
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Allier 18 Apr 14 5.24pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.20pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am

Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing.

It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now?

Bollox. If he didn't report it to the league, he should have escalated it within Bolton.

telling a 'mate' or anyone else for that matter is not "Reporting" it.

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 18 Apr 14 5.27pm
Can we just conclude that he is a Mega-Nigel or if we really wanted to take the piss we could call him Winston or Augustus. Edited by EastEndPalace (18 Apr 2014 5.28pm)
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WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 18 Apr 14 5.27pm

Can we just conclude that he is a Mega-Nigel or if we really wanted to take the piss we could call him Winston or Augustus.

Edited by EastEndPalace (18 Apr 2014 5.28pm)

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palace777 belfast 18 Apr 14 5.36pm
who gives a sh*t? we are staying up,bolton are staying down!
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palace777

belfast 18 Apr 14 5.36pm

who gives a sh*t?
we are staying up,bolton are staying down!

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.40pm
Quote glazedallover at 18 Apr 2014 5.24pm Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.20pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am Yes they will be construed as criminal acts. Like cricketers paying for weather reports. This is because betting may be involved or something that may influence the outcome of a sporting event. See what is happening all over the sporting world to get this fact. If any club are seen to breach the rules in any way, it can be seen as criminal. Of course common law will not be infringed as this is not statuary and often involves civil law, making it a case for only NGOs to enforce within their remit. Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing. It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now? Bollox. If he didn't report it to the league, he should have escalated it within Bolton. telling a 'mate' or anyone else for that matter is not "Reporting" it. Telling anyone is divulging the facts, no matter who it is you are telling. The idea is to prevent cover-ups. When this goes further the likes of SE25 and the rest will get it. If the league make a ruling that neither party or either party agrees with they can take the league to court over the decision if they believe it transvenes any law, Now my bet is Tan will take this to court once the league decides Palace have no case to answer. After all, Tan is proving that desperate. Then anyone who is known to be involved will be asked to tell all. Those who do not declare honestly what they know will then be seen to withholding information, or even abetting. Those who truly think the above scenario is not possible or likely need to look back at sport in general and soccer in particular. Hopefully I hope this puts my side to this to rest and I pray nothing of what I've said, occurs.
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.40pm

Quote glazedallover at 18 Apr 2014 5.24pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.20pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am

Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing.

It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now?

Bollox. If he didn't report it to the league, he should have escalated it within Bolton.

telling a 'mate' or anyone else for that matter is not "Reporting" it.

Telling anyone is divulging the facts, no matter who it is you are telling. The idea is to prevent cover-ups. When this goes further the likes of SE25 and the rest will get it. If the league make a ruling that neither party or either party agrees with they can take the league to court over the decision if they believe it transvenes any law, Now my bet is Tan will take this to court once the league decides Palace have no case to answer. After all, Tan is proving that desperate. Then anyone who is known to be involved will be asked to tell all. Those who do not declare honestly what they know will then be seen to withholding information, or even abetting. Those who truly think the above scenario is not possible or likely need to look back at sport in general and soccer in particular. Hopefully I hope this puts my side to this to rest and I pray nothing of what I've said, occurs.

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glazedallover Allier 18 Apr 14 5.46pm
Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.40pm Quote glazedallover at 18 Apr 2014 5.24pm Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.20pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am Yes they will be construed as criminal acts. Like cricketers paying for weather reports. This is because betting may be involved or something that may influence the outcome of a sporting event. See what is happening all over the sporting world to get this fact. If any club are seen to breach the rules in any way, it can be seen as criminal. Of course common law will not be infringed as this is not statuary and often involves civil law, making it a case for only NGOs to enforce within their remit. Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing. It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now? Bollox. If he didn't report it to the league, he should have escalated it within Bolton. telling a 'mate' or anyone else for that matter is not "Reporting" it. Telling anyone is divulging the facts, no matter who it is you are telling. The idea is to prevent cover-ups. When this goes further the likes of SE25 and the rest will get it. If the league make a ruling that neither party or either party agrees with they can take the league to court over the decision if they believe it transvenes any law, Now my bet is Tan will take this to court once the league decides Palace have no case to answer. After all, Tan is proving that desperate. Then anyone who is known to be involved will be asked to tell all. Those who do not declare honestly what they know will then be seen to withholding information, or even abetting. Those who truly think the above scenario is not possible or likely need to look back at sport in general and soccer in particular. Hopefully I hope this puts my side to this to rest and I pray nothing of what I've said, occurs. You haven't a clue. Tosser.
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glazedallover

Allier 18 Apr 14 5.46pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.40pm

Quote glazedallover at 18 Apr 2014 5.24pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 5.20pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 18 Apr 2014 1.12pm

Quote adrian b at 18 Apr 2014 11.36am

Once again, HE DID NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES the sad little s*** went running off to OGS. Not the same thing.

It doesn't matter who DF went to Gogh, the fact is he reported it somewhere. so the ends the same. Understand now?

Bollox. If he didn't report it to the league, he should have escalated it within Bolton.

telling a 'mate' or anyone else for that matter is not "Reporting" it.

You haven't a clue. Tosser.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.56pm
Thankyou for your intelligent response, Glazed.
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 18 Apr 14 5.56pm

Thankyou for your intelligent response, Glazed.

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Dan1 Croydon 18 Apr 14 6.02pm
Given our complete lack of effort in the semi final 2nd Leg of the League Cup a couple of years ago and now this, makes you wonder if Freedman may be planning a move to Cardiff at some point?
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Croydon 18 Apr 14 6.02pm

Given our complete lack of effort in the semi final 2nd Leg of the League Cup a couple of years ago and now this, makes you wonder if Freedman may be planning a move to Cardiff at some point?

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