Does anyone else think the Government should stand up and say 'that’s it the British borders are closed to immigrants'. Whether they are being threatened with death or prison in there own country, I couldn’t give a shinny s***e not my problem. You don't see a British citizen killing someone and legging it to Afghanistan going "QUICK LET ME ILL WORK I PROMISE".

Yes maybe a 1 or 2 immigrants work but for those 1 or 2 you get thousands of the f***ers sitting at home with there wife 6 children in a 5 bedroom detached and a BMW or a Mercedes, and its all paid for by the government. Mind you if were mug enough to do it then maybe we deserve it but I think enough is enough immigrants only come to this country because were a laughing stock and give free hand outs.

I also think we should change our laws on illegal immigrants, coz all we do with them is waste a few grand with lawyers and other crap send them back to France the French don’t want them so they let them crawl through the channel tunnel or hop on the back of a lorry, and then the driver of the lorry gets in the s*** what the f*** is that all about???

Edited by Jonsey (24 Mar 2005 12:23pm)

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Oh Jonesy This can be discussed and debated and argued until the cows come home!!

Funnily enough the other day a massive bill board poster from the Tories was put up around here saying

"it's not racist to put restrictions on immigrants"

Someone scrubbed out the not so it now reads

"it is racist to put restrictions on immigrants"

Nice work!!

In this country we have a legal obligation to accept people into Britain who make a claim for asylum, and they are allowed to reside here until a decision is made on there claim. Obviously we have a problem with illegal immigration but we aren't the only ones. So we can't say right no one is allowed to come in for 6 months. Yes there is a problem also with where we will put these people. I don't see where much of the problem lies considering the thousands of houses that are boarded up sitting derelict - the government should concentrate on regenerating these areas.

If the Tories hadn't have sold off all the council houses in the first place we probably wouldn't even have such a shortage now!

Edited by A_JsShorts (24 Mar 2005 12:45pm)

Jonesy I haven't accused you of being racist at all. I didn't mention religion or black or white either!

I have just put up an example of what I saw this morning on a bill board.

But this topic seems to come up every other month and the same people say the same things.

I am happy to get in to a debate about and put my opinions across, but it seems to me you know very little about the wider situation and are only thinking about what you think is going on here. Have a look at why people legitimately claim asylum, have a look at the benefits they DON'T get, tell me what you think asylum seekers get when they claim asylum... I bet you really don't actually know.

Edited by A_JsShorts (24 Mar 2005 12:51pm)

Jonsey i've had it before on this subject from people on here at the end of the day it's YOUR point of view i didn't think it would belong untill the word racist came up

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We have taken too soft a stance on immigrants for too long. We need to change our immigration policy before it gets even more out of hand.

The distinction between assylum seekers and immigrants has become very blurred and needs to be resolved. These days assylum seekers aren't just people looking to escape terrorist governments etc. They are just normal immigrants.

There needs to be a thorough screening process to see who should be allowed into the country. We also have to stop those looking to enter the country from actually staying here while their application is processed as it gives them easier opportunities to remain in the country illegally.

If people can prove that they want to come here to acquire equal opportunities and work then I have no quarrels, but there have been too many examples where those that enter the country live off the state. They get given a nice big house and a nice amount of benefits.

If people want to enter the country and gain British citizenship then it should be earned. Don't immigrants in the US need to take a Citenzhip test? We're lacking workers in the medical profession, if people want to enter the country on the basis to help us to help themselves then that wouldn't be a problem.

We also have feable laws on our immigration policy. We have potential immigrants taking the government to court because they weren't given immediate access to the country!

We are offering too many freebies to those who are looking to enter the country.
I believe the policy in Australia is along the lines of 'if you can't support yourself then we're not going to help you while our current citizens need our help'.

We're giving away money that could be used to improve the NHS, schools and trying to help the homeless. It's about time we, as a country, put ourselves before others. We're not the only European country that can offer a better way of life, but it appears that we're the only country that appeals to the majority of immigrants.

Surely we could also improve our stance on deportation. If people have come here and not bothered to get a job then they should be shipped out again. We shouldn't just be a charity case.

It also doesn't help with the fact that we're an over populated little island. Every square inch of free space is now being converted into housing.

A restriction on immigration is necessary. Obviously not a complete ban as there are genuine people looking to escape torture and what-not. But I don't agree to the fact of allowing people to stay here while their application is being processed as it makes it harder to deport them if it fails.
We also lack certain professionals who could eventually help this country. In the end this is a British country, if people want to become British then it needs to be earned and not taken advantage of.

Jonesey have you ever seen a BMW dealer that had a sign saying "Free BMWs" for immigrants...?

Of course not, many of them have legitimately earnt them.

Whilst a lot of your point I agree with, when you make sweeping and nonsensical generalisations like this one you just ruin the rest of it.

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