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PatrickA London 22 Apr 24 8.19am
I note there's much justified outrage on another thread about Danny Murphy's brusque dismissal of Palace last night on the subject of Eze. Essentially he said that Eze was too good for us and that he would be with a Champions League club next season. So lets examine that. Would Murphy have been so adamant after the recent Man City game when Eze was anonymous and substituted or some of the previous games where Eze was often caught in possession in dangerous areas for the team? The point I'm making is that Murphy is basing his appraisal in one game in isolation in a very simplistic analysis which does him no credit. Eze was outstanding yesterday and is capable of having outstanding games. It's noteworthy yesterday though that he was given freedom of the park with no opponent going near him. He picked the ball up with his back to goal or on the half turn and was free to do as he pleased. I would contrast this with the Man City game where he received the ball in similar positions and was crowded out at every turn. In recent seasons I seem to recall that Eze's best games have been against lesser teams. Somebody will have to remind me if he has really excelled against a top team? Don't get me wrong, I think Eze is a brilliant player. This is more about the knee jerk and lazy punditry of an ex player based on one game.
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PatrickA

London 22 Apr 24 8.19am

I note there's much justified outrage on another thread about Danny Murphy's brusque dismissal of Palace last night on the subject of Eze.
Essentially he said that Eze was too good for us and that he would be with a Champions League club next season.
So lets examine that.
Would Murphy have been so adamant after the recent Man City game when Eze was anonymous and substituted or some of the previous games where Eze was often caught in possession in dangerous areas for the team?
The point I'm making is that Murphy is basing his appraisal in one game in isolation in a very simplistic analysis which does him no credit.
Eze was outstanding yesterday and is capable of having outstanding games.
It's noteworthy yesterday though that he was given freedom of the park with no opponent going near him.
He picked the ball up with his back to goal or on the half turn and was free to do as he pleased.
I would contrast this with the Man City game where he received the ball in similar positions and was crowded out at every turn.
In recent seasons I seem to recall that Eze's best games have been against lesser teams.
Somebody will have to remind me if he has really excelled against a top team?

Don't get me wrong, I think Eze is a brilliant player.
This is more about the knee jerk and lazy punditry of an ex player based on one game.

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Steveoxon Oxford 22 Apr 24 8.44am
Well said. It was an extraordinary statement. Has got his knife out for Palace because he thinks we did a dirty on Roy?
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Steveoxon

Oxford 22 Apr 24 8.44am

Well said. It was an extraordinary statement. Has got his knife out for Palace because he thinks we did a dirty on Roy?

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pax3908 22 Apr 24 8.52am
Originally posted by PatrickA I note there's much justified outrage on another thread about Danny Murphy's brusque dismissal of Palace last night on the subject of Eze. Essentially he said that Eze was too good for us and that he would be with a Champions League club next season. So lets examine that. Would Murphy have been so adamant after the recent Man City game when Eze was anonymous and substituted or some of the previous games where Eze was often caught in possession in dangerous areas for the team? The point I'm making is that Murphy is basing his appraisal in one game in isolation in a very simplistic analysis which does him no credit. Eze was outstanding yesterday and is capable of having outstanding games. It's noteworthy yesterday though that he was given freedom of the park with no opponent going near him. He picked the ball up with his back to goal or on the half turn and was free to do as he pleased. I would contrast this with the Man City game where he received the ball in similar positions and was crowded out at every turn. In recent seasons I seem to recall that Eze's best games have been against lesser teams. Somebody will have to remind me if he has really excelled against a top team? Don't get me wrong, I think Eze is a brilliant player. This is more about the knee jerk and lazy punditry of an ex player based on one game. Couldn't agree more,the lad is brilliant on a good day,but l have no time for the punditry on MOTD anyway,they constantly harp on about Olise and Eze going but l question that,why leave a team they are happy in and now playing well with the possibility of a really exciting future under there new manager,it has to be better than sitting on the bench half the time at one of the mega clubs,here's hoping anyway,leave the MOTD miseries to there pontificating rubbish!!!
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pax3908

22 Apr 24 8.52am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Don't get me wrong, I think Eze is a brilliant player.
This is more about the knee jerk and lazy punditry of an ex player based on one game.

Couldn't agree more,the lad is brilliant on a good day,but l have no time for the punditry on MOTD anyway,they constantly harp on about Olise and Eze going but l question that,why leave a team they are happy in and now playing well with the possibility of a really exciting future under there new manager,it has to be better than sitting on the bench half the time at one of the mega clubs,here's hoping anyway,leave the MOTD miseries to there pontificating rubbish!!!

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Teddy Eagle 22 Apr 24 8.54am
Originally posted by PatrickA I note there's much justified outrage on another thread about Danny Murphy's brusque dismissal of Palace last night on the subject of Eze. Essentially he said that Eze was too good for us and that he would be with a Champions League club next season. So lets examine that. Would Murphy have been so adamant after the recent Man City game when Eze was anonymous and substituted or some of the previous games where Eze was often caught in possession in dangerous areas for the team? The point I'm making is that Murphy is basing his appraisal in one game in isolation in a very simplistic analysis which does him no credit. Eze was outstanding yesterday and is capable of having outstanding games. It's noteworthy yesterday though that he was given freedom of the park with no opponent going near him. He picked the ball up with his back to goal or on the half turn and was free to do as he pleased. I would contrast this with the Man City game where he received the ball in similar positions and was crowded out at every turn. In recent seasons I seem to recall that Eze's best games have been against lesser teams. Somebody will have to remind me if he has really excelled against a top team? Don't get me wrong, I think Eze is a brilliant player. This is more about the knee jerk and lazy punditry of an ex player based on one game. That's fair but I think there's a wider point in that this happens whenever we get a player who has something about him - the various talking heads start going on about them moving to a Champions League club (not Celtic obviously) since they're patently too good for us. Of course there is a hierarchy among clubs and players want to move as high up it as they can, and their agents will be all for it too, but this dismissive attitude grates. The hope is always that the better players buy into a manager's methods and vision and with OG there's a chance that may happen. A faint hope admittedly.
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Teddy Eagle

22 Apr 24 8.54am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Don't get me wrong, I think Eze is a brilliant player.
This is more about the knee jerk and lazy punditry of an ex player based on one game.

That's fair but I think there's a wider point in that this happens whenever we get a player who has something about him - the various talking heads start going on about them moving to a Champions League club (not Celtic obviously) since they're patently too good for us.
Of course there is a hierarchy among clubs and players want to move as high up it as they can, and their agents will be all for it too, but this dismissive attitude grates.
The hope is always that the better players buy into a manager's methods and vision and with OG there's a chance that may happen.
A faint hope admittedly.

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eaglesdare 22 Apr 24 9.09am
Don't listen to pundits anymore. I have stopped years ago.
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22 Apr 24 9.09am

Don't listen to pundits anymore. I have stopped years ago.

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ambrose7 Croydon 22 Apr 24 11.19am
I thought yesterday was actually the perfect demonstration of why he may get overlooked by the top 4 and likely will be by England in the summer. So much of what he does is so, so good .... but his finishing isn't at the very top level. As soon as that ball fell to De Bruyne on the corner of our box in the City game, I said 'this is going top corner'. They're so clinical. Foden and Palmer both have multiple hat tricks this calendar year. After the chances Liverpool missed against us, half their side got dropped for the Fulham game. There is no tolerance for missing chances at the very top level. Eze was fantastic yesterday but Pep would be asking him how he only scored one. The one at the start of the second half was only about 8 yards out and Fabianki's been able to get to it. The one just before he got taken off went miles wide. Dragged quite a few wide from the edge of the box in the first half. He should've had, deserved even, a hat-trick. I think Eze will stay, at least another year, and I think it's Olise those clubs will be really, really interested in. 7 goals and 4 assists in 900 minutes of PL football this season for Olise. Remarkable. For comparison, Eze has 8 goals, 3 assists in 1700 minutes of PL football. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 22 Apr 24 11.19am

I thought yesterday was actually the perfect demonstration of why he may get overlooked by the top 4 and likely will be by England in the summer.

So much of what he does is so, so good .... but his finishing isn't at the very top level.

As soon as that ball fell to De Bruyne on the corner of our box in the City game, I said 'this is going top corner'. They're so clinical. Foden and Palmer both have multiple hat tricks this calendar year. After the chances Liverpool missed against us, half their side got dropped for the Fulham game. There is no tolerance for missing chances at the very top level.

Eze was fantastic yesterday but Pep would be asking him how he only scored one. The one at the start of the second half was only about 8 yards out and Fabianki's been able to get to it. The one just before he got taken off went miles wide. Dragged quite a few wide from the edge of the box in the first half. He should've had, deserved even, a hat-trick.

I think Eze will stay, at least another year, and I think it's Olise those clubs will be really, really interested in. 7 goals and 4 assists in 900 minutes of PL football this season for Olise. Remarkable. For comparison, Eze has 8 goals, 3 assists in 1700 minutes of PL football.

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MrRobbo Chaldon 22 Apr 24 11.35am
Originally posted by ambrose7 I thought yesterday was actually the perfect demonstration of why he may get overlooked by the top 4 and likely will be by England in the summer. So much of what he does is so, so good .... but his finishing isn't at the very top level. As soon as that ball fell to De Bruyne on the corner of our box in the City game, I said 'this is going top corner'. They're so clinical. Foden and Palmer both have multiple hat tricks this calendar year. After the chances Liverpool missed against us, half their side got dropped for the Fulham game. There is no tolerance for missing chances at the very top level. Eze was fantastic yesterday but Pep would be asking him how he only scored one. The one at the start of the second half was only about 8 yards out and Fabianki's been able to get to it. The one just before he got taken off went miles wide. Dragged quite a few wide from the edge of the box in the first half. He should've had, deserved even, a hat-trick. I think Eze will stay, at least another year, and I think it's Olise those clubs will be really, really interested in. 7 goals and 4 assists in 900 minutes of PL football this season for Olise. Remarkable. For comparison, Eze has 8 goals, 3 assists in 1700 minutes of PL football. I think you are right there. My god is he good, but he is probably too wasteful for the very top....at present. For me there is also a question mark about general consistency. But when he is good, he's unplayable.
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Chaldon 22 Apr 24 11.35am

Originally posted by ambrose7

I thought yesterday was actually the perfect demonstration of why he may get overlooked by the top 4 and likely will be by England in the summer.

So much of what he does is so, so good .... but his finishing isn't at the very top level.

I think you are right there. My god is he good, but he is probably too wasteful for the very top....at present.

For me there is also a question mark about general consistency.

But when he is good, he's unplayable.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 22 Apr 24 11.36am
Eze is the most naturally talented English player since Gazza, but he needs decent players to play with, Olise, Mateta, Wharton and Munoz certainly are, and Doucoure will be, i think he comes into the Le Tissier bracket, what he can do is unteachable, when and if he leaves, PSG, Barcelona or Madrid would be ideal, he will, as i have said, be one of the worlds best players by the time he is 27/28 “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 22 Apr 24 11.36am

Eze is the most naturally talented English player since Gazza, but he needs decent players to play with, Olise, Mateta, Wharton and Munoz certainly are, and Doucoure will be, i think he comes into the Le Tissier bracket, what he can do is unteachable, when and if he leaves, PSG, Barcelona or Madrid would be ideal, he will, as i have said, be one of the worlds best players by the time he is 27/28

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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palace99 New Mills 22 Apr 24 11.44am
i thought Murphy's comment was a tad lazy but justified. Eze is a class above our team, when on form. I think Murphy should have mentioned that he can be inconsistent etc, but if he maintains that form Champions League teams will come knocking. Maybe he hasn't done it against the big teams, but you can imagine their team talk, especially when Olise was injured - stop Eze and you stop Palace. I think Wilf had the same issue. Big teams would focus on stopping him.
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palace99

New Mills 22 Apr 24 11.44am

i thought Murphy's comment was a tad lazy but justified.

Eze is a class above our team, when on form. I think Murphy should have mentioned that he can be inconsistent etc, but if he maintains that form Champions League teams will come knocking.

Maybe he hasn't done it against the big teams, but you can imagine their team talk, especially when Olise was injured - stop Eze and you stop Palace.

I think Wilf had the same issue. Big teams would focus on stopping him.

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Robk 22 Apr 24 11.48am
Why are we listening to a self confessed ‘Coke’ ‘ lover anyway...he didn’t exactly excel as a midfield player.. a few levels down from Eze I would say...
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Robk

22 Apr 24 11.48am

Why are we listening to a self confessed ‘Coke’ ‘ lover anyway...he didn’t exactly excel as a midfield player.. a few levels down from Eze I would say...

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 22 Apr 24 12.02pm
I love watching Eze play, even if only on the TV. Without wanting to appear too poetic about it, his play is so fluid and stylish it's mesmerising, and whilst he does sometimes lose possession too easily and miss a few too many goalscoring opportunities, I really don't mind at all. I just want to watch him play. I too was annoyed with Murphy for writing us off as unworthy of him and, although I expect him to develop his career elsewhere at some stage, I fully expect Mr Parish to pull out all the stops to keep him and Olise at least for a full season under Ollie's tutelage. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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I love watching Eze play, even if only on the TV. Without wanting to appear too poetic about it, his play is so fluid and stylish it's mesmerising, and whilst he does sometimes lose possession too easily and miss a few too many goalscoring opportunities, I really don't mind at all. I just want to watch him play.

I too was annoyed with Murphy for writing us off as unworthy of him and, although I expect him to develop his career elsewhere at some stage, I fully expect Mr Parish to pull out all the stops to keep him and Olise at least for a full season under Ollie's tutelage.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 22 Apr 24 12.27pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Eze is the most naturally talented English player since Gazza, but he needs decent players to play with, Olise, Mateta, Wharton and Munoz certainly are, and Doucoure will be, i think he comes into the Le Tissier bracket, what he can do is unteachable, when and if he leaves, PSG, Barcelona or Madrid would be ideal, he will, as i have said, be one of the worlds best players by the time he is 27/28 That's one of the most outrageous things I've ever read.
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Eze is the most naturally talented English player since Gazza, but he needs decent players to play with, Olise, Mateta, Wharton and Munoz certainly are, and Doucoure will be, i think he comes into the Le Tissier bracket, what he can do is unteachable, when and if he leaves, PSG, Barcelona or Madrid would be ideal, he will, as i have said, be one of the worlds best players by the time he is 27/28

That's one of the most outrageous things I've ever read.

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