Genuine question.

Seems as though there was a fatal car crash yesterday evening, Police turned up (as they would) and a full scale riot broke out.

I am intrigued as the knee-jerk response (to riot not tragedy) is 'must be a scumbag area' as the riot was apparently 'anti-police' motivated however given the state of policing in the country last few years I wonder if there is more to it?

All speculative from me of course. Still doesn't look too settled however.

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Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I expect the two boys that died were little angels and totally innocent of any wrong doing

I read that the rioting resulted in millions of pounds-worth of improvements to the area.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

'South Wales police van was pursuing teenagers in Cardiff, force admits', after first denying it.

Force refers itself to police watchdog following deaths of Kyrees Sullivan and Harvey Evans.

Well, I mean whatever their merits or misdeeds, they are dead now as result of a foolish moment, so while we should deplore what may well be a totally unwarranted response from the community (I'm sure we'll soon know the details) it's still a very unfortunate way for it all to end.

Yes, exactly. I think people need to separate the two (the event and unruly response), rather than having a default of zero sympathy due to what followed. At the end of the day two kids died.
The footage released certainly appears to have shifted the police response but beyond that who knows. For the sake of the families, community and indeed police hopefully what has happened will be accurately pieced together. That's the only fair course of action when something like this takes place.