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Living In Hope Petersfield 22 Jan 23 12.30pm | |
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I am sitting on the fence as I write this. On the one hand PV had an incredibly tough job last year with such a massive change needed to players and age profile, and he did better than we could have hoped for. This season I am not at all convinced though, and the promise of last season is dwindling. We aren’t playing well, will be lucky to stay out of the relegation battle, and I can’t understand some of his decisions (eg playing Schlupp rather than Hughes as midfield starter), whilst the substitutions are usually baffling. However, I also think he hasn’t been given the right support in transfer dealings since last season, where we have let useful players go without replacing them (eg Kouyate who would have been really valuable at times this season). So the jury’s very much still out for me. What do others think ?
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waddy Highton,Melbourne 22 Jan 23 12.37pm | |
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I am Pro PV You can see he has a squad of young learning vs old tiresome & slow So he’s done well last season ,tricky this but the top 8 are fully investing in players not us so we need to be fair to him If he is not supported with new players I guess he himself will be snapped up He is the best v CCP is h we’ve had in a long time let’s keep him like Arsenal stood by Arteta with their frap season last year - look now who is screaming hot Arteta out now ????
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sydtheeagle England 22 Jan 23 12.39pm | |
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Very good manager. Do I agree with every decision he makes? No. But on balance, the scales are tilted massively in his favour. He's calm, professional, ambitious, has a plan, has the respect of the players, has given us added credibility as a club, and overall has moved us forward on the pitch (with very little support from the board over the last twelve months). If we want to do better, we need to support him, not replace him. Further, he doesn't make knee-jerk decisions, backs himself, and while everyone makes mistakes, he gets far more right than he gets wrong. Obviously, I could get into the details of why I think some of his decisions make sense but I'll save that for another day. Anyone who thinks we should replace him, I don't understand at all.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 23 1.03pm | |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
Very good manager. Do I agree with every decision he makes? No. But on balance, the scales are tilted massively in his favour. He's calm, professional, ambitious, has a plan, has the respect of the players, has given us added credibility as a club, and overall has moved us forward on the pitch (with very little support from the board over the last twelve months). If we want to do better, we need to support him, not replace him. Further, he doesn't make knee-jerk decisions, backs himself, and while everyone makes mistakes, he gets far more right than he gets wrong. Obviously, I could get into the details of why I think some of his decisions make sense but I'll save that for another day. Anyone who thinks we should replace him, I don't understand at all. Some of the players signed whilst Vieira has been at the helm :
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southnorwoodhill 22 Jan 23 1.06pm | |
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I'm all for PV, talk of getting rid of him is daft. We can't go out and buy an entire new line up, so he has to manage what he's got. So far he's doing alright. I'm interested to see how he progresses the youth players and accommodates them into the squad, which I believe is one of Parish's long term aims.
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Swindy Bromley 22 Jan 23 1.19pm | |
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PV did a very decent job last season when Mr Textor's money provided him with the tools.
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EddieMac 22 Jan 23 1.37pm | |
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Overall I am happy with PV especially last season when we looked to be in serious trouble leading up to the start of the season. This season has been strange and some of his decisions leave me baffled,but the things he can’t control are our individual mistakes which lead to goals and our woeful finishing of goal chances. My main gripe as always is his constant use of Schlupp. I get the feeling that Schlupp is a project of his and he is determined to turn him into a certain type of player when in my view Schlupp doesn’t even resemble a football player most of the time. If we can get ourselves a decent pair of ball playing full backs, a centre mid and a striker it will make all the difference. Edited by EddieMac (22 Jan 2023 1.38pm)
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davehuggins 22 Jan 23 1.51pm | |
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100% Happy from me, we are just struggling a bit right now. All clubs have spells like this and questions are asked but IMO he has done a very good job to date.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 22 Jan 23 2.03pm | |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
Very good manager. Do I agree with every decision he makes? No. But on balance, the scales are tilted massively in his favour. He's calm, professional, ambitious, has a plan, has the respect of the players, has given us added credibility as a club, and overall has moved us forward on the pitch (with very little support from the board over the last twelve months). If we want to do better, we need to support him, not replace him. Further, he doesn't make knee-jerk decisions, backs himself, and while everyone makes mistakes, he gets far more right than he gets wrong. Obviously, I could get into the details of why I think some of his decisions make sense but I'll save that for another day. Anyone who thinks we should replace him, I don't understand at all. Ridiculous statement, he may become one, but he certainly isn't yet, failed at Nice, over 100m spent, no sign of any improvement, in fact i think most players have deteriorated under him, poor formation selection for most of the season, lot of players playing out of position, until the last two games, no passion, the jury is very much out for me
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southnorwoodhill 22 Jan 23 2.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Ridiculous statement, he may become one, but he certainly isn't yet, failed at Nice, over 100m spent, no sign of any improvement, in fact i think most players have deteriorated under him, poor formation selection for most of the season, lot of players playing out of position, until the last two games, no passion, the jury is very much out for me What exactly do you expect? PV has actually done better league positionally than Roy, who originally inherited a decent squad. When that side was run down and out of contract PV had to pick up the pieces and start over.
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taylors lovechild 22 Jan 23 2.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Ridiculous statement, he may become one, but he certainly isn't yet, failed at Nice, over 100m spent, no sign of any improvement, in fact i think most players have deteriorated under him, poor formation selection for most of the season, lot of players playing out of position, until the last two games, no passion, the jury is very much out for me Do you though? I'm starting to wonder. I think Vieira has done enough for us to give him some patience. He has overseen the overhaul of the squad and transitioned the team to playing in a new way without us ever seriously looking in threat of being drawn into a relegation fight. Guehi and Mitchell both received England call-ups under his watch and Olise has been eased into the PL and has been improving. I'm not about to build a statue, but I'm happy with him at the helm. Edited by taylors lovechild (22 Jan 2023 2.11pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 23 2.16pm | |
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Still learning his trade - can imagine him at a big side sooner or later. Football has definitely improved, we sometimes play well. Vieira has also shown willingness to just dig in a couple of times - so is not completely set in his ways like a previous manager was.
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