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PatrickA London 26 Dec 22 7.33pm | |
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I will try and make this a considered post rather than an angry rant, but I am having my doubts about Vieira’s judgement over some aspects of our play.
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southnorwoodhill 26 Dec 22 7.41pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I will try and make this a considered post rather than an angry rant, but I am having my doubts about Vieira’s judgement over some aspects of our play. I can think of two possibilities: he's being told to play those players come what may
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stancummins 26 Dec 22 9.42pm | |
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the ref was a cnut,was Mitchels challenge any worse than Coefals for west ham that i have just seen and only get a yellow. Tompkins second yellow was a joke and not even a foul and i know for a fact that the Fulham dugout were convinced that their goal was going to be chalked out as he headed the ball onto his hand.But none of that will be debated because people will quite rightly focus on the totally gutless performance we put in , no effort, no bottle in 50 50 challenges, terrible body language from the very first minute with heads down,slouching shoulders as if they didnt want to be there .With a manager who had the reputation PV had as player ,to be a leader and warrior we had no one today.No matter how many players (and there is plenty of talent in the squad) feel they are square pegs in round holes , the minimum that fans would expect is some effort,passion and pride in their performance none of which was forthcoming from any player today
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cROYdonrogers Leamington Spa 26 Dec 22 9.50pm | |
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What has Hughes got to do to get a start alongside Doucoure. You could drop Schlupp,Ayew or one of the two luxury players.
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EddieMac 26 Dec 22 10.51pm | |
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Originally posted by cROYdonrogers
What has Hughes got to do to get a start alongside Doucoure. You could drop Schlupp,Ayew or one of the two luxury players. I agree. Anyone is better than Schlupp. He is truly awful. Ayew is currently our best player out of the ones you mentioned.
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YT Oxford 26 Dec 22 10.57pm | |
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Surely everyone has now learnt that in our present state we are simply not good enough...in fact we aren't 'good' in any respect.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 22 11.18pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
Surely everyone has now learnt that in our present state we are simply not good enough...in fact we aren't 'good' in any respect. Last season McArthur played about 20 games,Gallagher about 40 games and Kouyate about 30 games.They all made positive contributions. We signed Doucoure in the summer but the other signings were a backup goalkeeper, Richards who has been injured and an inexperienced Ebiowei. Our performances have been dire in our last 2 games, another defeat on the back of an abject performance at Bournemouth and HOL will be at its splenetic worst.
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Brinscalleagle2 Brinscall 26 Dec 22 11.23pm | |
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To me the lessons learnt are that when the manager senses an opportunity to win he plays Wilf down the middle and Olise and Eze in attacking midfield positions. This has not proved successful. On more than on occasion this combination has shown that we get overrun in midfield and we fail to control the game. When we play sides that our chances of winning are low the manager plays with Wilf on the wing and a centre forward. This is then coupled with a more conservative midfield. This formation has brought about a modicum of success. Lesson here is don’t play Wilf down the middle with Olise and Eze as attacking midfielders. Having said that having said that we ain’t that bad over a season of games but we do have one or three shockers. Being Palace we will probably thrash Bournemouth in our next game. COYP
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Dec 22 11.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Last season McArthur played about 20 games,Gallagher about 40 games and Kouyate about 30 games.They all made positive contributions. We signed Doucoure in the summer but the other signings were a backup goalkeeper, Richards who has been injured and an inexperienced Ebiowei. Our performances have been dire in our last 2 games, another defeat on the back of an abject performance at Bournemouth and HOL will be at its splenetic worst.
Yep agree with all of that. Tomkins was woeful today. Was a great signing for us IMHO and has served the club well. By the same token the same could be said about the likes of Ian Wright, however I have no great desire to see him play as the only option following a single suspension. On top of that, we only had one recognisable midfielder in midfield, no striker on the pitch and nothing to offer off the bench. We’ve some great players in the squad but can’t even make an obvious starting XI. Our lack of depth is looking likely to be our downfall and now the starting team is in doubt. Today was a catastrophe start to finish, and highly unlikely to repeat, however you can’t help but feel it really exposed our precarious position in terms of playing staff.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 22 11.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Yep agree with all of that. Tomkins was woeful today. Was a great signing for us IMHO and has served the club well. By the same token the same could be said about the likes of Ian Wright, however I have no great desire to see him play as the only option following a single suspension. We’ve some great players in the squad but can’t even make an obvious starting XI. Our lack of depth is looking likely to be our downfall and now the starting team is in doubt. Today was a catastrophe start to finish, and highly unlikely to repeat, however you can’t help but feel it really exposed our precarious position in terms of playing staff. We lose one of our central defenders and we are reliant on Tomkins, Richards (Who has been out injured) and perhaps Ward, who is a right-back, to fill that gap.Heaven help us if both Andersen and Guehi are unable to play ! Fulham have Ream,Diop, Adarabioyo and Duffy, Everton have Tarkowski,Coady,Holgate,Mina,Godfrey,Keane as options, W.Ham have Dawson,Ogbonna,Aguerd,Zouma,Kehrer as options etc etc etc.
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 27 Dec 22 12.56am | |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
I agree. Anyone is better than Schlupp. He is truly awful. Ayew is currently our best player out of the ones you mentioned. Ayew better than Eze or Olise??.. Wow... I'm lost for words at that... Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (27 Dec 2022 12.57am)
Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!! |
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thai-eagle chiang mai 27 Dec 22 1.44am | |
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Is Vieira too nice? Well-liked by everybody and going to the Arsenal(?) Christmas party!! The players think they are stars playing on the same stage as DeBruyne and Salah. Seeing them on Palace TV cooking food for the boss in Turkey, two players appear in a PL promotion film as Santa Claus.
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