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PatrickA London 26 Apr 22 11.46am
Perhaps I’m a natural worrier but I do have a concern if Zaha, Eze and Olise can be accommodated in the same team other than for brief periods where e.g substitutions are made. The reason is that if you add a striker to those 3 that means 4 players who are not good at winning the ball back or adept at tracking back. The modern game does not seem to permit that luxury and I suspect that our game would lack the requisite intensity with four players who don’t really contribute defensively. The pragmatist in me thinks we’ll only see the three players feature in the same team on occasions.
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PatrickA

London 26 Apr 22 11.46am

Perhaps I’m a natural worrier but I do have a concern if Zaha, Eze and Olise can be accommodated in the same team other than for brief periods where e.g substitutions are made.
The reason is that if you add a striker to those 3 that means 4 players who are not good at winning the ball back or adept at tracking back.
The modern game does not seem to permit that luxury and I suspect that our game would lack the requisite intensity with four players who don’t really contribute defensively.
The pragmatist in me thinks we’ll only see the three players feature in the same team on occasions.

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Luarddd Redhill 26 Apr 22 11.53am
Originally posted by PatrickA Perhaps I’m a natural worrier but I do have a concern if Zaha, Eze and Olise can be accommodated in the same team other than for brief periods where e.g substitutions are made. The reason is that if you add a striker to those 3 that means 4 players who are not good at winning the ball back or adept at tracking back. The modern game does not seem to permit that luxury and I suspect that our game would lack the requisite intensity with four players who don’t really contribute defensively. The pragmatist in me thinks we’ll only see the three players feature in the same team on occasions. I think they can , Zaha can work very hard going back. Olise and Eze can also do a shift going back maybe not as good but it can work IMO plus the attacking threat is class.
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Redhill 26 Apr 22 11.53am

Originally posted by PatrickA

I think they can , Zaha can work very hard going back. Olise and Eze can also do a shift going back maybe not as good but it can work IMO plus the attacking threat is class.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Apr 22 12.13pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Perhaps I’m a natural worrier but I do have a concern if Zaha, Eze and Olise can be accommodated in the same team other than for brief periods where e.g substitutions are made. The reason is that if you add a striker to those 3 that means 4 players who are not good at winning the ball back or adept at tracking back. The modern game does not seem to permit that luxury and I suspect that our game would lack the requisite intensity with four players who don’t really contribute defensively. The pragmatist in me thinks we’ll only see the three players feature in the same team on occasions. I agree. Wilf does a lot more defensively than he used to. But Olise is quite lightweight and Eze isn't a ball winner. I don't envisage the three starting regularly together. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Apr 22 12.13pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I agree.

Wilf does a lot more defensively than he used to. But Olise is quite lightweight and Eze isn't a ball winner.

I don't envisage the three starting regularly together.

Old, Ungifted and White

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dg1937 26 Apr 22 12.22pm
It was good to see all three on the pitch together. I think it can work with two hard workers like Gallagher and McArthur (who was superb) in the team, particularly against a team like Leeds who offered very little going forward. I wouldn't like to try it against Man City.
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dg1937

26 Apr 22 12.22pm

It was good to see all three on the pitch together. I think it can work with two hard workers like Gallagher and McArthur (who was superb) in the team, particularly against a team like Leeds who offered very little going forward. I wouldn't like to try it against Man City.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 26 Apr 22 12.57pm
of course the can, its similar to Zaha Moritz/Punc and Bolasie, but DG and Jedinak, guarded the centre backs, and Murray was fantastic, also the full backs need to be able to overlap, so in my opinion, RB, DM, and AJ syle forward are whats needed, and all the out of contracts not renewed accept Kouyate, “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 26 Apr 22 12.57pm

of course the can, its similar to Zaha Moritz/Punc and Bolasie, but DG and Jedinak, guarded the centre backs, and Murray was fantastic, also the full backs need to be able to overlap, so in my opinion, RB, DM, and AJ syle forward are whats needed, and all the out of contracts not renewed accept Kouyate,

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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taylors lovechild 26 Apr 22 1.05pm
If we could get a defensive midfielder with the energy of Gallagher and the physique of Kouyate to sit behind them then it could work, but those sorts of players are rare. With Eze you have to basically accept he's not going to offer much defensively, but sometimes just being able to pass well and keep hold of the ball relieves pressure in itself. Zaha works really hard defensively. Olise is tall and quick if a bit soft at the moment, but he is still only a baby. Wilf was pretty lightweight at that age and now he's pretty strong. Hopefully we'll get to see those three start a game before the end of the season, as in theory it would surely give us one of the most exciting forward lines outside the top four and there's no reason why we shouldn't be playing on the front foot in our remaining games. It would mean Gallagher playing deeper, but let's face it, he's not going to be here next season barring a miracle, so we have to look to the future.
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If we could get a defensive midfielder with the energy of Gallagher and the physique of Kouyate to sit behind them then it could work, but those sorts of players are rare. With Eze you have to basically accept he's not going to offer much defensively, but sometimes just being able to pass well and keep hold of the ball relieves pressure in itself. Zaha works really hard defensively. Olise is tall and quick if a bit soft at the moment, but he is still only a baby. Wilf was pretty lightweight at that age and now he's pretty strong.

Hopefully we'll get to see those three start a game before the end of the season, as in theory it would surely give us one of the most exciting forward lines outside the top four and there's no reason why we shouldn't be playing on the front foot in our remaining games. It would mean Gallagher playing deeper, but let's face it, he's not going to be here next season barring a miracle, so we have to look to the future.

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Uphill Bedford 26 Apr 22 1.28pm
Eze is beginning to work out his liaison with Zaha and does it better than Mitchell. He is learning his trade in the Premier League and his passing is better than Schlupp and far better than Kouyate's. Olise is learning quickly and all three will be an essential part of next season's campaign. Once they learn Zaha's wiles and how to cope with often brutal challenges they will be fine and an exciting addition of the 'New Palace' Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders
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Uphill

Bedford 26 Apr 22 1.28pm

Eze is beginning to work out his liaison with Zaha and does it better than Mitchell.

He is learning his trade in the Premier League and his passing is better than Schlupp and far better than Kouyate's.

Olise is learning quickly and all three will be an essential part of next season's campaign.

Once they learn Zaha's wiles and how to cope with often brutal challenges they will be fine and an exciting addition of the 'New Palace'

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

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MrRobbo Chaldon 26 Apr 22 1.56pm
It worked last night didn't it? In respect of us not conceding many chances, only issue was that they didn't create enough. IMO against the lesser teams, we need to play our best footballers, and trust in our ability. Which means having these 3 on the pitch. We need to worry less about tracking back, or wining the ball back as we'll have most of it.
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Chaldon 26 Apr 22 1.56pm

It worked last night didn't it? In respect of us not conceding many chances, only issue was that they didn't create enough.

IMO against the lesser teams, we need to play our best footballers, and trust in our ability. Which means having these 3 on the pitch.

We need to worry less about tracking back, or wining the ball back as we'll have most of it.

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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 22 2.16pm
I was genuinely excited when Wilf, Eze and Olise were on the pitch at the same time. These guys have tons of talent between them. Wilf has always lacked good decision making but his skill with a ball is truly spellbinding. Olise is incredibly gifted for such a young player and Eze is like a Rolls Royce when he is fully fit. If we can add greater scoring power to that, then we will be a real danger to any side. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Apr 2022 2.53pm)
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I was genuinely excited when Wilf, Eze and Olise were on the pitch at the same time.
These guys have tons of talent between them.

Wilf has always lacked good decision making but his skill with a ball is truly spellbinding.
Olise is incredibly gifted for such a young player and Eze is like a Rolls Royce when he is fully fit.

If we can add greater scoring power to that, then we will be a real danger to any side.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Apr 2022 2.53pm)

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eaglesdare 26 Apr 22 2.29pm
When wilf got the ball last night there were 4-5 leeds players on him straight away! we were crying out for olise to come on for the space on the other side! once that happen wilf had a couple of chances!
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eaglesdare

26 Apr 22 2.29pm

When wilf got the ball last night there were 4-5 leeds players on him straight away! we were crying out for olise to come on for the space on the other side! once that happen wilf had a couple of chances!

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Elpis In a pub 26 Apr 22 2.54pm
Originally posted by eaglesdare When wilf got the ball last night there were 4-5 leeds players on him straight away! we were crying out for olise to come on for the space on the other side! once that happen wilf had a couple of chances! Yep , there is no reason why we cant play a system that showcases the talents of our more skillfull players . In fact the more the merrier . We know we are not going to win anything all we ask is to be entertained .
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Elpis

In a pub 26 Apr 22 2.54pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Yep , there is no reason why we cant play a system that showcases the talents of our more skillfull players . In fact the more the merrier .
We know we are not going to win anything all we ask is to be entertained .

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PatrickA London 26 Apr 22 6.38pm
It would appear that the vast majority believe that the three will feature together in the team at the same time. I would love to see it happen, and work successfully, but remain unconvinced we’ll see it on a regular basis. Aston Villa have dropped the attempt to play Coutinho and Buendia together on a regular basis and West Ham rarely start Behnrama, Lanzini and Fornells in the same lineup. Although Vieira likes to play good football , he is not cavalier in his approach as can be seen by his utilisation of solid professionals like Ayew and Schlupp ahead of Olise and Eze.
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PatrickA

London 26 Apr 22 6.38pm

It would appear that the vast majority believe that the three will feature together in the team at the same time.
I would love to see it happen, and work successfully, but remain unconvinced we’ll see it on a regular basis.
Aston Villa have dropped the attempt to play Coutinho and Buendia together on a regular basis and West Ham rarely start Behnrama, Lanzini and Fornells in the same lineup.
Although Vieira likes to play good football , he is not cavalier in his approach as can be seen by his utilisation of solid professionals like Ayew and Schlupp ahead of Olise and Eze.

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