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Ukraine Situation - Should We Be Worried?
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 Palace Old Geezer  Midhurst 12 Feb 22 2.14pm |
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Media coverage seems to be revving up the scale of concern about the possibility of Russia invading Ukraine. US intelligence suggests that Putin is planning to launch an attack as soon as Wednesday. British and American Nationals have been told to get out of Kiev, or Kyiv as we are now supposed to spell it (Chicken Kyiv anyone?). The consequences of an attack could be the most catastrophic for decades, said Boris. Some are even saying that it could spark WW3. Now, while we are happily (hopefully) watching our team play a game of football this afternoon, should we be worried about the future of our existence?
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Feb 22 2.19pm |
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Russia will invade, everyone else will condem & shout loudly, then we all get on as before, thats my take on it. Tho, the Chinese might prefer a war as would no doubt the Taliban et al.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Feb 22 4.02pm |
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Yes, I was talking about this a while ago.....it's damn serious. The west should give Russia their Nato buffer zone.....this isn't worth one single life. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Feb 2022 4.02pm)
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 12 Feb 22 5.13pm |
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My take is,.. Nato tries to expand into former USSR territory. why ? Ukraine is already part of the EU trading partnership, why does it need to be part of NATO ? The same as if Scotland tried to join the USSR and Russia wanted to put some nukes there. This is all of The West's making, to divert attention from pl55 poor Governance at home.
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| YT Oxford 12 Feb 22 5.13pm |
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Yes
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Feb 22 5.30pm |
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The West to blame here. The Nasty Aggressive Threatening Organisation - NATO. Hysterical media spoon-fed by warmongering politicians. Putin is not actually asking for much. Withdrawal of NATO forces from their border. Russia wants NATO off their backs, actually don't we? We should end all sanctions and get Russia back into the G8.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Feb 22 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yes, I was talking about this a while ago.....it's damn serious. The west should give Russia their Nato buffer zone.....this isn't worth one single life. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Feb 2022 4.02pm) Unless I am mistaken Ukraine has no official relationship with Nato, and remains non-aligned. That talks have occurred doesn't mean an application will either be made, or accepted. They are just positioning. Either Ukraine is an independent country, possessed of self-determination, or she is not. This is her decision alone. The western allies, and Nato, cannot decline an application that hasn't been made. They can only give unofficial assurances they want Ukraine to remain non-aligned. Which also means not invaded by Russia. Russia has their buffer zone. Don't anyone be fooled. This is an attempt to start a domino effect which brings about the restoration of the Soviet Union. Military resistance by Nato is unlikely, but full scale sanctions, which will hurt us too, must follow what now seems inevitable to me.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Feb 22 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
My take is,.. Nato tries to expand into former USSR territory. why ? Ukraine is already part of the EU trading partnership, why does it need to be part of NATO ? The same as if Scotland tried to join the USSR and Russia wanted to put some nukes there. This is all of The West's making, to divert attention from pl55 poor Governance at home. The west has some incredibly poor leadership. In fact ever since the Berlin wall came down the relationship with Russia has been a failure on a massive scale......there was an opportunity there but the 'all or nothing' boys have to have their enemies.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Feb 22 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Unless I am mistaken Ukraine has no official relationship with Nato, and remains non-aligned. That talks have occurred doesn't mean an application will either be made, or accepted. They are just positioning. Either Ukraine is an independent country, possessed of self-determination, or she is not. This is her decision alone. The western allies, and Nato, cannot decline an application that hasn't been made. They can only give unofficial assurances they want Ukraine to remain non-aligned. Which also means not invaded by Russia. Russia has their buffer zone. Don't anyone be fooled. This is an attempt to start a domino effect which brings about the restoration of the Soviet Union. Military resistance by Nato is unlikely, but full scale sanctions, which will hurt us too, must follow what now seems inevitable to me. Why do I have to have the biggest establishment back bender out there posting at me.....I'm literally stalked by a deluded Blair fanboy. If he wasn't so dishonest I'd bother but it's a merry-go-round.
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| thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 12 Feb 22 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
My take is,.. Nato tries to expand into former USSR territory. why ? Ukraine is already part of the EU trading partnership, why does it need to be part of NATO ? The same as if Scotland tried to join the USSR and Russia wanted to put some nukes there. This is all of The West's making, to divert attention from pl55 poor Governance at home. exactly my thoughts, also which numpty decided it was a good idea to put liz truss and sergei lavrov in a press conference thing, he was always going to be grumpy, that whats he does! Edited by thegreatlardino (12 Feb 2022 6.08pm)
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| Stirlingsays 12 Feb 22 6.10pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The West to blame here. The Nasty Aggressive Threatening Organisation - NATO. Hysterical media spoon-fed by warmongering politicians. Putin is not actually asking for much. Withdrawal of NATO forces from their border. Russia wants NATO off their backs, actually don't we? We should end all sanctions and get Russia back into the G8.
I agree. No one sensible wants this.
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Ouzo Dan  Behind you 12 Feb 22 6.13pm |
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Considering myself & my family are no more than 2 hours drive to the Ukrainian border & the city of Uzhhorod I am watching closely. I have posted about this on a previous post, Everything east of the Dnieper will be Russian including all of Kyiv, this will act as the buffer zone with NATO & the EU on one side & Russia on the other. The fault lies almost entirely with the EU & NATO, honestly the West are dumb as f***. My own personal feelings on this are I would let Russia have it whilst we triple our efforts in arming and reinforcing the Baltics because they're next.
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