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Matov 11 Jan 22 3.43am | |
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Cannot see him surviving this. I thought they might give him a chance to turn it around for the May local elections but clearly, there is now a concerted effort to get rid of him within a matter of a couple of weeks. If this story is true then there are ZERO excuses for it and the hubris behind even the notion of trying to get away with it is beyond any kind of rational comprehension. Throw in the fact that Gove was all over the television yesterday and is now leading this charge on the cladding issue, tells me that he is the one behind it all and that a decision has been taken that Johnson's time is up.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Jan 22 4.40am | |
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The guy is teflon. He'll try to flannel his way out, and many complicit voters will follow him to the bitter end.
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 11 Jan 22 4.48am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Cannot see him surviving this. I thought they might give him a chance to turn it around for the May local elections but clearly, there is now a concerted effort to get rid of him within a matter of a couple of weeks. If this story is true then there are ZERO excuses for it and the hubris behind even the notion of trying to get away with it is beyond any kind of rational comprehension. Throw in the fact that Gove was all over the television yesterday and is now leading this charge on the cladding issue, tells me that he is the one behind it all and that a decision has been taken that Johnson's time is up. Presumably, these people were all working together anyway and the afternoon/ evening shift took their own drinks out into the garden? In view of this, I can't get too excited about a potential 'non-event'. The Tories (not just Peppa Pig) may tumble in May because of their failure to deliver post Brexit as well as all the ongoing seediness that's associated with them. Edited by Henry of Peckham (11 Jan 2022 5.09am)
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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 11 Jan 22 10.43am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
The guy is teflon. He'll try to flannel his way out, and many complicit voters will follow him to the bitter end. Agreed. The Tories knew what to expect when they made him their leader and the public seem to like him. On the news last night, when asked about it he just smirked and tried to flirt his way out of it.
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Stirlingsays 11 Jan 22 10.49am | |
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I can't really see Johnson being removed as leader before the next election....You would need a scandal on a much bigger scale.
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Wilesy01 Bristol 11 Jan 22 11.25am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I can't really see Johnson being removed as leader before the next election....You would need a scandal on a much bigger scale. I think anybody who lost a loved one during the lockdown who were not able to see them in their last moments, nor able to hold a proper funeral for them would call this a big scandal. You can't ask the public to make enormous sacrifices like that and not abide by your own rules. But sadly the PM is a slippery fish so may well find a way out of this. It's whether his party will tolerate this type of behaviour in fear of an electoral battering at the next GE is the big question.
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Stirlingsays 11 Jan 22 11.38am | |
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Originally posted by Wilesy01
I think anybody who lost a loved one during the lockdown who were not able to see them in their last moments, nor able to hold a proper funeral for them would call this a big scandal. You can't ask the public to make enormous sacrifices like that and not abide by your own rules. But sadly the PM is a slippery fish so may well find a way out of this. It's whether his party will tolerate this type of behaviour in fear of an electoral battering at the next GE is the big question. Yeah but you probably thought that those rules and sacrifices were justified in the first place, whereas when it comes to losing a close relative I would have had it as personal choice with disclaimer warning and what safety procedures could be implemented. This isn't the black death and I think the balance has been wrong since the start. The reality is that most of the public are tired of covid restrictions now so this just won't have the same impact than it might have had a year ago. It has much more traction with activists and the political than it will with the public....most of whom know that politicians are hypocrites anyway. While there is considerable disquiet within the Tory party over Johnson...pretty much from the start he has always been an election winner. So essentially the Tories have their own Blair, where most of the party's grass roots aren't happy but the MPs like their jobs. However, while the Tory Mps hold their nose less easily than Labour did with Blair I can't see them giving up their meal ticket without a considerable scandal. He would be much more likely to go in the year after an election. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Jan 2022 11.44am)
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silvertop Portishead 11 Jan 22 11.51am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
The guy is teflon. He'll try to flannel his way out, and many complicit voters will follow him to the bitter end. Quite. I suspect he is now looking for a suitable head to chop for deflection purposes - that Martin bloke seems a likely one.
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Badger11 Beckenham 11 Jan 22 11.57am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Quite. I suspect he is now looking for a suitable head to chop for deflection purposes - that Martin bloke seems a likely one. You mean the civil servant he sent the email invitation? Quite right.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 11 Jan 22 12.23pm | |
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I am sure CCO and 1922 ctte have very good idea at what point Boris becomes an election liability and they will immediately get rid of him. When the grown up election comes people will look at their own financial position first and foremost, other issues very secondary. The indicators are that the economy will continue to improve in terms of size and output, the tricky issue is when inflation is higher than wage increases.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 11 Jan 22 12.40pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Quite. I suspect he is now looking for a suitable head to chop for deflection purposes - that Martin bloke seems a likely one. signs of a psychopath ? - a chaotic love life
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eaglesdare 11 Jan 22 12.46pm | |
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Boris just doing what most of us did during lockdown! If anyone else was pm england would be back in lockdown over the Christmas just gone! Better the devil you know tbh! Wish Irish leaders had even half the backbone that Boris does!
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