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merganser Flag 17 Dec 21 9.32pm Send a Private Message to merganser Add merganser as a friend


Can anyone put me right on this?

When Ward-Prowse lined up the free-kick for the first Soton goal, there was probably at least a 40 per cent chance (maybe higher) that he would score direct.

That being the case, why did we not have one tall player (maybe two), as well as Guita, on the goal-line.

This would have made him re-think a direct shot at goal and probably adopt Plan B which would have been less dangerous.

I understand the argument that having one or more extra defenders on the goal-line would mean their forwards would not have been offside, but I feel W-P posed such a threat that we should have changed our defence strategy instead of just lining up a wall in the conventional way.

I'm no tactician but would be grateful for any advice on this.

 

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slubglurge Flag welling 17 Dec 21 10.36pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

Better off taking the wall away. If the keeper can see the taker at the point of impact he has a better chance of saving it. JWP uses the wall as part of his technique

 

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merganser Flag 17 Dec 21 10.49pm Send a Private Message to merganser Add merganser as a friend

Thanks Slub - a shame you weren't able to tip off the coaching staff in advance of the match.

Would it help if the wall retreated and the keeper stood in front of it?

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 18 Dec 21 8.38am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

How about the officials doing their job in the first place, Hughes removed his leg and then the cheating arse fell over, very simple VAR decision.

 

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 18 Dec 21 10.42am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by merganser


Can anyone put me right on this?

When Ward-Prowse lined up the free-kick for the first Soton goal, there was probably at least a 40 per cent chance (maybe higher) that he would score direct.

That being the case, why did we not have one tall player (maybe two), as well as Guita, on the goal-line.

This would have made him re-think a direct shot at goal and probably adopt Plan B which would have been less dangerous.

I understand the argument that having one or more extra defenders on the goal-line would mean their forwards would not have been offside, but I feel W-P posed such a threat that we should have changed our defence strategy instead of just lining up a wall in the conventional way.

I'm no tactician but would be grateful for any advice on this.

I’m not sure we’re allowed two keepers on the pitch at the same time!!

But joking aside, I’m always screaming to put someone on the post, usually just before the ball flies in the net, it’s a massive gap that’s not that hard for a decent striker of the ball to find. Ward-Prowse, Alexander-Arnold, Marcus Alonso in recent history just off the top of my head.

Edited by monkey (18 Dec 2021 10.45am)

 

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JRW2 Flag Dulwich 18 Dec 21 12.38pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

I'm certainly no expert, but wasn't it obvious that W-P was going to use his right foot and aim for the left corner? If that was the case, wouldn't it have made sense for Buckland to move a little to his right as W-P prepared to strike the ball? I think he got a bit of hand to the ball even standing in the middle of the goal.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Dec 21 2.16pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Absolutely, a defender to each side of the goalkeeper.

Shades of Tony Pulis.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Dec 21 2.17pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Absolutely, a defender to each side of the goalkeeper.

Shades of Tony Pulis.

Shoot me down if I am wrong but if we put a player on the goal line doesn't that mean the attacking team can do likewise?

 


One more point

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merganser Flag 18 Dec 21 5.26pm Send a Private Message to merganser Add merganser as a friend

Badger is right.

The attacking team could put a player on the goal line and he would not be offside if there was an onfield defender (plus the keeper) also on the goal line.

However, he could be put offside if either the online defender or the goalkeeper (or both) took a step forward before the kick is taken.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Dec 21 6.06pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Shoot me down if I am wrong but if we put a player on the goal line doesn't that mean the attacking team can do likewise?

Good point, I've never seen it.

They would have to stand fractionally behind the line?

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Dec 21 9.13pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

I'm certainly no expert, but wasn't it obvious that W-P was going to use his right foot and aim for the left corner? If that was the case, wouldn't it have made sense for Buckland to move a little to his right as W-P prepared to strike the ball? I think he got a bit of hand to the ball even standing in the middle of the goal.


Unfortunately, W-P is good enough to curl it into the opposite corner. Butland (not Buckland BTW) would have been beaten wherever he stood W-P's accuracy. His kick was virtually inch perfect - you don't stop those.

 

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Pierre Flag Purley 19 Dec 21 5.44pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

The golden rule is don't give Ward-Prowse the bloody opportunity in the first place!
He relishes any chance in front of goal from 18/25m range, everyone knows that.
Wouldn't really make a difference with players on the post.

 

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