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 cryrst  The garden of England 29 Sep 21 10.57am |
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So NEXT are moaning about staff shortages and a lack of drivers, meaning staff may be laid off. Then they go on to say they knew this would happen with brexit.
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DanH  SW2 29 Sep 21 11.28am |
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Hang on - Next should have employed people 5 years ago for when they needed them now? Next would have gone bust very quickly if they had you making business decisions.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Sep 21 11.49am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So NEXT are moaning about staff shortages and a lack of drivers, meaning staff may be laid off. Then they go on to say they knew this would happen with brexit. Yup I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. You expected this to happen and did nothing. I think he was referring to the drivers more than store staff so why did they not sort this out a while ago? I used to be a contingency planner I suggest NEXT employ one.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Sep 21 11.53am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Hang on - Next should have employed people 5 years ago for when they needed them now? Next would have gone bust very quickly if they had you making business decisions. Making plans and implementing are 2 different things. They should have anticipated this 5 years ago and looked at salaries, training and key staffing areas. They should have looked at where they are vulnerable e.g. drivers. They should have started to implement these plans in the last year when it became obvious. Very little sympathy for them or the supermarkets.
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| DanH SW2 29 Sep 21 11.58am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Making plans and implementing are 2 different things. They should have anticipated this 5 years ago and looked at salaries, training and key staffing areas. They should have looked at where they are vulnerable e.g. drivers. They should have started to implement these plans in the last year when it became obvious. Very little sympathy for them or the supermarkets. Businesses were left massively up in the air until the last minute with what the Brexit deal would look like. You can do all the contingency planning you like based on worst case scenarios as all sensible large scale businesses do, but you can't start throwing money at salaries, training and key staffing areas for something that might not have transpired. A lot of these businesses have very fragile supply chains relying on 'just in time' procedures and their profit margins per item are actually very slim - it's the volume they rely on to make their profit.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Sep 21 12.01pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Businesses were left massively up in the air until the last minute with what the Brexit deal would look like. You can do all the contingency planning you like based on worst case scenarios as all sensible large scale businesses do, but you can't start throwing money at salaries, training and key staffing areas for something that might not have transpired. A lot of these businesses have very fragile supply chains relying on 'just in time' procedures and their profit margins per item are actually very slim - it's the volume they rely on to make their profit. Exactly no contingency so they should have looked at their business model. Whilst the details were not finalised it was quite clear from at least 2 years ago what the issues with the EU were. As for staffing you identify your key staff and pay them accordingly. Next probably employ thousands of store staff but only a few hundred drivers. I wonder how many they have lost recently. Edited by Badger11 (29 Sep 2021 12.03pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Sep 21 12.09pm |
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The same people who dismissed any concerns as Project Fear are now blaming companies for not planning for said concerns.
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| DanH SW2 29 Sep 21 12.15pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Exactly no contingency so they should have looked at their business model. Whilst the details were not finalised it was quite clear from at least 2 years ago what the issues with the EU were. As for staffing you identify your key staff and pay them accordingly. Next probably employ thousands of store staff but only a few hundred drivers. I wonder how many they have lost recently. Edited by Badger11 (29 Sep 2021 12.03pm) What industry did you work in out of interest? It can't have been retail. Retailers such as Next and supermarkets manage to keep their prices low by offshoring the large majority of their production and importing into the UK as it is much, much cheaper than producing it in the UK. The rights and wrongs of that are quite rightly to be debated, but if you think a business like Next can rip up and replace its business model just like that by manufacturing everything they sell in the UK then that is just insane naivety. Brexiters seems to wilfully ignore, or just be plain ignorant to, how businesses operate in the real world and the reason why people are able to enjoy an uninterrupted supply of cheap essentials. If you want this utopia of 'British jobs for British people making British goods' then fine, but by God are we going to pay for it in terms of businesses going bust, major job losses and prices going through the roof. As ever, it's the lowest paid in society that are most affected by this - job losses, price of the weekly shop going up, price of fuel going up etc. Edited by DanH (29 Sep 2021 12.16pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Sep 21 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yup I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. You expected this to happen and did nothing. I think he was referring to the drivers more than store staff so why did they not sort this out a while ago? I used to be a contingency planner I suggest NEXT employ one. There’s quite a few large businesses that don’t like sticking their necks out to make a decision. Following the crowd is easier and safer. A bit like politicians and Covid.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 Sep 21 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So NEXT are moaning about staff shortages and a lack of drivers, meaning staff may be laid off. Then they go on to say they knew this would happen with brexit. My son has applied for many jobs in retail, has been unsuccessful as they insist on employing those with experience. So how does one get the experience?
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Orange1290  29 Sep 21 12.39pm |
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Voting for 'brexit' to lose freedom of movement of people and goods has led to.......a shortage of people and goods, nothing whatsoever to do with 'brexit', priceless lol.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 Sep 21 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
Voting for 'brexit' to lose freedom of movement of people and goods has led to.......a shortage of people and goods, nothing whatsoever to do with 'brexit', priceless lol. I do not believe the shortage of people is as bad as they claim see my post above. A lack of training programmes and foresight on the part of the businesses Edited by Spiderman (29 Sep 2021 12.45pm)
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