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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Apr 21 1.34pm
why does the demographic of our referees look so much like the workers on the Bridge of the Death Star ? middle aged white blokes. surely if football is trying to be an exemplar for tolerance & diversity ? where the black referees ? where the LGBT referees ? You may be able to point out one or two exceptions. But the demographics of players seems to not be reflected in match officials ? Surely some new fellas could do better than Mark Clattenburg et al ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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why does the demographic of our referees look so much like the workers on the Bridge of the Death Star ? middle aged white blokes.

surely if football is trying to be an exemplar for tolerance & diversity ?

where the black referees ? where the LGBT referees ?

You may be able to point out one or two exceptions. But the demographics of players seems to not be reflected in match officials ?

Surely some new fellas could do better than Mark Clattenburg et al ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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martin2412 Living The Dream 01 Apr 21 1.56pm
They're all too busy being victims to do a referee's course. I can't see any reason other than their own reluctance, as they would be more than likely fast tracked through in order for the FA to be seen to be doing the right thing. Of course another reason there might not be many is that the ones who have tried are all cack at it ?
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Living The Dream 01 Apr 21 1.56pm

They're all too busy being victims to do a referee's course.

I can't see any reason other than their own reluctance, as they would be more than likely fast tracked through in order for the FA to be seen to be doing the right thing.

Of course another reason there might not be many is that the ones who have tried are all cack at it ?

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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Apr 21 2.03pm
This fella has reached the pinnacle of refereeing and his background is not anglo, blue-eyed CofE. [Link] But why so little diversity of referees in the Prem ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 01 Apr 21 2.03pm

This fella has reached the pinnacle of refereeing and his background is not anglo, blue-eyed CofE.

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But why so little diversity of referees in the Prem ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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martin2412 Living The Dream 01 Apr 21 2.07pm
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Apr 21 2.10pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio This fella has reached the pinnacle of refereeing and his background is not anglo, blue-eyed CofE. [Link] But why so little diversity of referees in the Prem ? Have you tried being a ref? I have & to a very high standard. You cant just 'shoehorn' someone into a job, just to 'box-tick'. In this country, you need to start at 14/16yrs old to have any chance of making it up through the ladder of promotion to eventually the 'Elite' group of 30. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Apr 21 2.10pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

This fella has reached the pinnacle of refereeing and his background is not anglo, blue-eyed CofE.

[Link]

But why so little diversity of referees in the Prem ?

Have you tried being a ref? I have & to a very high standard. You cant just 'shoehorn' someone into a job, just to 'box-tick'. In this country, you need to start at 14/16yrs old to have any chance of making it up through the ladder of promotion to eventually the 'Elite' group of 30.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Apr 21 2.12pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Have you tried being a ref? I have & to a very high standard. You cant just 'shoehorn' someone into a job, just to 'box-tick'. In this country, you need to start at 14/16yrs old to have any chance of making it up through the ladder of promotion to eventually the 'Elite' group of 30. Black players have broken through to the elite. Not an easy feat. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 01 Apr 21 2.12pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Black players have broken through to the elite. Not an easy feat.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Apr 21 2.21pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Black players have broken through to the elite. Not an easy feat. Players have, yes. Its not easy for anyone, regardless of colour, to get to the 'Elite' Full Time Salaried Referee's. Does anyone of colour actually WANT to be a ref? Why are there not ex-players as top flight refs? Did you know what you wanted to do when you was 14/15 or 16? See where im coming from? This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Apr 21 2.21pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Black players have broken through to the elite. Not an easy feat.

Players have, yes. Its not easy for anyone, regardless of colour, to get to the 'Elite' Full Time Salaried Referee's. Does anyone of colour actually WANT to be a ref? Why are there not ex-players as top flight refs? Did you know what you wanted to do when you was 14/15 or 16? See where im coming from?

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 01 Apr 21 2.35pm
This question is the same as the situation at the Oscars. Why weren't there more black actors represented? Maybe it's because they weren't good enough or they just made lousy films. Same with refereeing as others have said. If someone wants to ref (or do anything else for that matter) there's nothing whatsoever to stop them if they're prepared to work at it and they're good enough. Their race, colour or sexual orientation doesn't come into it and it's blatantly wrong to even suggest it does. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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This question is the same as the situation at the Oscars. Why weren't there more black actors represented?

Maybe it's because they weren't good enough or they just made lousy films.

Same with refereeing as others have said. If someone wants to ref (or do anything else for that matter) there's nothing whatsoever to stop them if they're prepared to work at it and they're good enough.

Their race, colour or sexual orientation doesn't come into it and it's blatantly wrong to even suggest it does.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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becky over the moon 01 Apr 21 4.36pm
BME& LGBT..... Pah! Eleven years at the top,described as the top female by the FA, an MBE and they still won't let a woman referee a Prem match. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 01 Apr 21 4.36pm

BME& LGBT..... Pah!

Eleven years at the top,described as the top female by the FA, an MBE and they still won't let a woman referee a Prem match.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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BlueJay UK 01 Apr 21 4.54pm
Originally posted by martin2412 They're all too busy being victims to do a referee's course. I can't see any reason other than their own reluctance, as they would be more than likely fast tracked through in order for the FA to be seen to be doing the right thing. Of course another reason there might not be many is that the ones who have tried are all cack at it ? There are plenty of black players, so it of course makes zero sense that the reason behind there not being refs is because blacks act like 'victims' or are no good at refereeing. Pointless, sweeping 'blacks are victims or backward' contribution. The most likely answer is lack of representation, and so they are more geared towards playing rather than refereeing... and somehow, amazingly, don't appear to be 'cack at it'. There should be female premier league refs too, if only to annoy people like you.
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UK 01 Apr 21 4.54pm

Originally posted by martin2412

They're all too busy being victims to do a referee's course.

I can't see any reason other than their own reluctance, as they would be more than likely fast tracked through in order for the FA to be seen to be doing the right thing.

Of course another reason there might not be many is that the ones who have tried are all cack at it ?

There are plenty of black players, so it of course makes zero sense that the reason behind there not being refs is because blacks act like 'victims' or are no good at refereeing. Pointless, sweeping 'blacks are victims or backward' contribution.

The most likely answer is lack of representation, and so they are more geared towards playing rather than refereeing... and somehow, amazingly, don't appear to be 'cack at it'. There should be female premier league refs too, if only to annoy people like you.

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BlueJay UK 01 Apr 21 4.55pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Players have, yes. Its not easy for anyone, regardless of colour, to get to the 'Elite' Full Time Salaried Referee's. Does anyone of colour actually WANT to be a ref? Why are there not ex-players as top flight refs? Did you know what you wanted to do when you was 14/15 or 16? See where im coming from? I can't imagine for a moment that it's more difficult to become an 'elite' ref than it is to put in the effort to become some of the best football players in the entire country. I'd say that it's more that there are so few black referees that its not seen as something to aspire to.
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UK 01 Apr 21 4.55pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Players have, yes. Its not easy for anyone, regardless of colour, to get to the 'Elite' Full Time Salaried Referee's. Does anyone of colour actually WANT to be a ref? Why are there not ex-players as top flight refs? Did you know what you wanted to do when you was 14/15 or 16? See where im coming from?

I can't imagine for a moment that it's more difficult to become an 'elite' ref than it is to put in the effort to become some of the best football players in the entire country.

I'd say that it's more that there are so few black referees that its not seen as something to aspire to.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Apr 21 5.18pm
Originally posted by BlueJay I can't imagine for a moment that it's more difficult to become an 'elite' ref than it is to put in the effort to become some of the best football players in the entire country. I'd say that it's more that there are so few black referees that its not seen as something to aspire to. How wrong your assumption is. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Apr 21 5.18pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I can't imagine for a moment that it's more difficult to become an 'elite' ref than it is to put in the effort to become some of the best football players in the entire country.

I'd say that it's more that there are so few black referees that its not seen as something to aspire to.

How wrong your assumption is.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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