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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 24 Mar 21 1.31pm | |
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It's a funny old world - technology advances faster than ever - but we now spend more on LPs than streaming music. Sales of vinyl LPs increased by 30% in 2020 making more money for record labels than at any time since 1989. Do you have a vinyl collection and enjoy the ritual of playing them or do you prefer the simplicity of streaming and CDs?
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DanH SW2 24 Mar 21 1.34pm | |
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Yep! Got a pretty decent collection going and my pub money over the last 12 months has tended to go on records. Outside of going to see them live buying a vinyl is the best way to put money in the artists’ pockets as they get f*ck all from streaming so try to help them out, especially smaller and less established bands and acts.
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 21 2.20pm | |
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I am rather cynical about the vinyl thing. Now the quality is a different subject. Many claim vinyl sounds the best. Does it really? First you have only six tracks a side, so you have to get up and turn it over. Second you have a very limited way of listening to music. One album at a time. Then you have compression of groves on the tracks nearer the label which reduces quality. Then you have the dust and the crackles and the skips. What about the actual sound? Well vinyl is analogue from start to finish, apart from the recording process which on new material is almost always digital nowadays. On digital files and CDs, the sound is produced digitally, but by the time it hits your ears, it has been converted to analogue. So everything you hear is analogue no matter what, but what about the effect of digital recording versus physical vinyl. Vinyl is limited physically by the pressing and condition. Like any other format, it is a representation of a recording which itself is the consequence of other equipment, environment and studio tweaking. There is no 'real' sound. It is a recording. Vinyl is no more 'real' than anything else. It is more about what you are used to hearing. I use 24bit audio files when available, and can listen to music at the press of a button, selecting tracks and albums randomly or selectively in an instant. I don't need a load of space to store vinyl or to get up of the chair every two seconds. What's not to like? OK, I'm done. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Mar 2021 2.24pm)
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Teddy Eagle 24 Mar 21 2.49pm | |
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Fatherken 24 Mar 21 2.58pm | |
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I feel sorry for you to have to get up and do anything let alone turn a recorded over .
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baldeagle73 Leamington spa 24 Mar 21 2.59pm | |
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I’ve got over 3000 records i was still buying in the 90s and early 2000s some of the stuff I have is worth a ridiculous amount of money I’m still buying at least 10 records a month
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 21 3.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I think hunting down vinyl in record stores in the old way is a subject unto itself. Those were the days.
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 24 Mar 21 3.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I am rather cynical about the vinyl thing. Now the quality is a different subject. Many claim vinyl sounds the best. Does it really? First you have only six tracks a side, so you have to get up and turn it over. Second you have a very limited way of listening to music. One album at a time. Then you have compression of groves on the tracks nearer the label which reduces quality. Then you have the dust and the crackles and the skips. What about the actual sound? Well vinyl is analogue from start to finish, apart from the recording process which on new material is almost always digital nowadays. On digital files and CDs, the sound is produced digitally, but by the time it hits your ears, it has been converted to analogue. So everything you hear is analogue no matter what, but what about the effect of digital recording versus physical vinyl. Vinyl is limited physically by the pressing and condition. Like any other format, it is a representation of a recording which itself is the consequence of other equipment, environment and studio tweaking. There is no 'real' sound. It is a recording. Vinyl is no more 'real' than anything else. It is more about what you are used to hearing. I use 24bit audio files when available, and can listen to music at the press of a button, selecting tracks and albums randomly or selectively in an instant. I don't need a load of space to store vinyl or to get up of the chair every two seconds. What's not to like? OK, I'm done. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Mar 2021 2.24pm) I do know what you mean Hrolf, some folk get very precious about the sound quality of vinyl that's lost on me. After standing too close to speakers at rock concerts and racing engines my hearing's shot. I just like the feel and the concept of the LP of which I have a very modest collection.
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 24 Mar 21 3.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think hunting down vinyl in record stores in the old way is a subject unto itself. Those were the days. Yes, cathartic isn't it? There's a place near me called Vinyl Matters, but my favourite is Ben's in Guildford. These are still the days - when we're allowed out!
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 21 3.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Fatherken
I feel sorry for you to have to get up and do anything let alone turn a recorded over . Each to their own. I'm much happier having my whole library at my fingertips.
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DanH SW2 24 Mar 21 3.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I am rather cynical about the vinyl thing. Now the quality is a different subject. Many claim vinyl sounds the best. Does it really? First you have only six tracks a side, so you have to get up and turn it over. Second you have a very limited way of listening to music. One album at a time. Then you have compression of groves on the tracks nearer the label which reduces quality. Then you have the dust and the crackles and the skips. What about the actual sound? Well vinyl is analogue from start to finish, apart from the recording process which on new material is almost always digital nowadays. On digital files and CDs, the sound is produced digitally, but by the time it hits your ears, it has been converted to analogue. So everything you hear is analogue no matter what, but what about the effect of digital recording versus physical vinyl. Vinyl is limited physically by the pressing and condition. Like any other format, it is a representation of a recording which itself is the consequence of other equipment, environment and studio tweaking. There is no 'real' sound. It is a recording. Vinyl is no more 'real' than anything else. It is more about what you are used to hearing. I use 24bit audio files when available, and can listen to music at the press of a button, selecting tracks and albums randomly or selectively in an instant. I don't need a load of space to store vinyl or to get up of the chair every two seconds. What's not to like? OK, I'm done. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Mar 2021 2.24pm) Not like you to be cynical about something A lot of what you have said is right. I have a record player and sound system and the sound quality is great but it's blue tooth so can also play Spotify off my phone which happens just as often as sticking a record on. One thing I do like about vinyl is that it forces you to listen to the album in the order intended by the artist as a complete body of work rather than skipping tracks or just listening to the singles like you can with streaming. For me, buying a record is a way of supporting the artist, especially during Covid when they cannot make money from touring. Being a musician is a not a glamorous/well paid lifestyle unless you're a mainstream artist that can sell out big venues so always try and do my bit so that they are still able to make the music that I like to listen to. Also there's a massive pleasure of spending an hour in a record shop browsing. And the artwork looks better in the bigger size.
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Mar 21 3.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
Yes, cathartic isn't it? Therthose aspectsthe vinle's a place near me called Vinyl Matters, but my favourite is Ben's in Guildford. These are still the days - when we're allowed out! I reminisce about the record buying obsessions of my youthful days, but I have no desire to resurrect them.
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