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Sportyteacher Flag London 25 Jan 21 10.09am Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Daily Telegraph reporting exclusive that Frank Lampard will be removed from his managerial position at Chelsea FC: [Link]

Bonkers decision if true with another turn of the carousel for managerial success at a club with a relatively inexperienced group of young players combined with foreign stars learning to conform to the pace and style of Premiership football.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 21 10.32am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

There are some 'Big' managers available such as Tuchel and Allegri.
I would not be surprised one iota if Lampard was removed of his duties and replaced by Tuchel.

Edited by Willo (25 Jan 2021 10.43am)

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Jan 21 10.36am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Daily Telegraph reporting exclusive that Frank Lampard will be removed from his managerial position at Chelsea FC: [Link]

Bonkers decision if true with another turn of the carousel for managerial success at a club with a relatively inexperienced group of young players combined with foreign stars learning to conform to the pace and style of Premiership football.

I think he only got the job in the first place because of Chelsea's transfer ban. Top Manager's expect a significant transfer kitty to be available.

He probably overachieved last season using the resources that he had. Now he's spent over £200m on players that aren't gelling or performing.

 


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AERO Flag 25 Jan 21 10.51am Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Although obviously a risk ,would have him at Palace .

 

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Originally posted by NEILLO

I think he only got the job in the first place because of Chelsea's transfer ban. Top Manager's expect a significant transfer kitty to be available.

He probably overachieved last season using the resources that he had. Now he's spent over £200m on players that aren't gelling or performing.

He's gone today. Tuchel to come in. His defensive record, anywhere, is woeful, and couldn't compete against top 6 teams.

Great article from The Athletic on all this, paywall so posted some highlights below... sounds like a political nightmare


• Lampard’s relationship with influential director Marina Granovskaia deteriorated
• Ralf Rangnick was offered interim job last week for four months but turned it down
• Calls were made in recent weeks to sound out Leipzig’s Julian • Nagelsmann before deal was struck with Thomas Tuchel
• Leicester game was tipping point and morning after spent trying to finalise successor
• Lampard shook players hands and thanked them for efforts under him after Leicester match
• Petr Cech involved in talking to new stars’ agents as form dipped
• Some players complained about lack of tactical instruction and not being spoken to for months
• Desire to re-sign Declan Rice annoyed his bosses
• The dressing room felt manager showed no empathy and were hurt by his public criticism
• Lampard would have walked out had he been working for any club other than Chelsea

"The problem was, the manager didn’t talk to the players — well only the ones he liked,” one such source explains. “I know of players who weren’t in the team that didn’t hear from him for many months. That’s very frustrating for a player because you don’t know what you have to do to do better, what the manager is thinking. It’s crazy."

"There was also a feeling that as form started to dip that the regular changes to the starting line-up prevented players from building a system and confidence. The squad, for example, could all see how talented Werner is but were horrified to see the confidence drain out of him as he was put in and out of the starting XI."

"Lampard was accused in some quarters of working players too hard, dating back to the preparations in June, ahead of last season getting back under way following the three-month postponement. Indeed, despite Chelsea’s fixture list this season regularly involving matches in midweek as well as the weekend, the 42-year-old was spotted still putting on intense drills. As one individual remarked: “There was a worry that not only were Chelsea players getting exhausted but it would take a toll with people getting more injuries.”

“From what I can tell, he felt it was like pissing against the wind. He experienced difficult relationships with a lot of people and wasn’t always sure who he could trust. He would have a conversation with one person but wasn’t sure what they’d be saying about him afterwards. He found the politics hard, a constant battle.”

“When things are going wrong at Chelsea, you will also find there are many people that will be happy to blame anything but their own area. It is something Lampard was trying to change, but it was going to take time. It is a deeply sat problem that has been there for many years."

"A facet against Lampard was the defensive record last season — they conceded 54 times, which was the worst record in the top half of the Premier League. Only three teams conceded more from set pieces (15). The additions of Chilwell, Silva and Mendy have seen an improvement in both departments despite the recent downturn."

 


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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 25 Jan 21 11.39am Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by AERO

Although obviously a risk ,would have him at Palace .

big risk.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 21 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by AERO

Although obviously a risk ,would have him at Palace .

I suspect some supporters might see the value of Lampard teaming up with John Terry at our club.

 

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Harpo Flag Oxfordshire 25 Jan 21 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Harpo Add Harpo as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I suspect some supporters might see the value of Lampard teaming up with John Terry at our club.

Suddenly Roy looks the perfect candidate.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Jan 21 1.04pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I suspect some supporters might see the value of Lampard teaming up with John Terry at our club.

No thanks! In all fairness though, would love them as coaches, but not managers.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 25 Jan 21 2.05pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

No thanks! In all fairness though, would love them as coaches, but not managers.

I’d love them in our team let alone as coaches.

 

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Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 25 Jan 21 2.17pm Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

He's gone today. Tuchel to come in. His defensive record, anywhere, is woeful, and couldn't compete against top 6 teams.

Great article from The Athletic on all this, paywall so posted some highlights below... sounds like a political nightmare


• Lampard’s relationship with influential director Marina Granovskaia deteriorated
• Ralf Rangnick was offered interim job last week for four months but turned it down
• Calls were made in recent weeks to sound out Leipzig’s Julian • Nagelsmann before deal was struck with Thomas Tuchel
• Leicester game was tipping point and morning after spent trying to finalise successor
• Lampard shook players hands and thanked them for efforts under him after Leicester match
• Petr Cech involved in talking to new stars’ agents as form dipped
• Some players complained about lack of tactical instruction and not being spoken to for months
• Desire to re-sign Declan Rice annoyed his bosses
• The dressing room felt manager showed no empathy and were hurt by his public criticism
• Lampard would have walked out had he been working for any club other than Chelsea

"The problem was, the manager didn’t talk to the players — well only the ones he liked,” one such source explains. “I know of players who weren’t in the team that didn’t hear from him for many months. That’s very frustrating for a player because you don’t know what you have to do to do better, what the manager is thinking. It’s crazy."

"There was also a feeling that as form started to dip that the regular changes to the starting line-up prevented players from building a system and confidence. The squad, for example, could all see how talented Werner is but were horrified to see the confidence drain out of him as he was put in and out of the starting XI."

"Lampard was accused in some quarters of working players too hard, dating back to the preparations in June, ahead of last season getting back under way following the three-month postponement. Indeed, despite Chelsea’s fixture list this season regularly involving matches in midweek as well as the weekend, the 42-year-old was spotted still putting on intense drills. As one individual remarked: “There was a worry that not only were Chelsea players getting exhausted but it would take a toll with people getting more injuries.”

“From what I can tell, he felt it was like pissing against the wind. He experienced difficult relationships with a lot of people and wasn’t always sure who he could trust. He would have a conversation with one person but wasn’t sure what they’d be saying about him afterwards. He found the politics hard, a constant battle.”

“When things are going wrong at Chelsea, you will also find there are many people that will be happy to blame anything but their own area. It is something Lampard was trying to change, but it was going to take time. It is a deeply sat problem that has been there for many years."

"A facet against Lampard was the defensive record last season — they conceded 54 times, which was the worst record in the top half of the Premier League. Only three teams conceded more from set pieces (15). The additions of Chilwell, Silva and Mendy have seen an improvement in both departments despite the recent downturn."

a big 'IF' all of that is true I wouldn't want him at Palace now as his management methods clearly need work to get the best out of players. Could be another FDB

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 25 Jan 21 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

a big 'IF' all of that is true I wouldn't want him at Palace now as his management methods clearly need work to get the best out of players. Could be another FDB

Agreed. The transfer of abilities from fabulous player to astute manager don’t always follow. One thing that all the top managers have is good man management skills. Getting 11 preening prima donnas to play together is not always that easy and even more difficult during periods of poor form.

Utd were so good under Ferguson because he knew exactly when to bollok them or put an arm around them. Cloughie was the same.

All I see from Lampard is he is given respect for being a great ex player, however once that runs out and he needs to earn his money as a manager he has come up short.

He may be back but I think he needs to step down a level or two and earn his place at the top.

 

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