I agree,total lockdown is too much of a blunt instrument and will further seriously damage an already fragile economy,leading to huge unemployment levels and hardship.

Some areas of England have very few covid infections,other areas being seemingly out of control.Appropriate targeting probably remains the best option,despite the shouting from the millionaire champagne socialist leader,Starmer,using the crisis for political ends.

That's not the choice, well it certainly shouldn't have been if the tracking systems were sorted and letting people go all over the place on holidays was stopped, amongst other things that could have been done to reduce contagion. Throw in a complete inability of children, young adults and drunk people to stay out of each others personal space and what other options is there?

Now it's a simple choice between hospitals being overrun or not. Sh1t indecisive management leaves binary choices. Hopefully they will learn and we won't be going through 3rd and 4th waves.

The hospitals weren't overrun because of the lockdown. Same thing here. I agree its all cr@p

Good to see how that political opportunist,millionaire Sir Quier is trying to maximise this crisis for his own ends ,just as if he could have done any better in controlling virus spread.
Just look over the water to see other nations struggling to cope.

a deep economic recession has always killed large numbers of people.....one way or another. But it is a silent killer.

A bit like smoking & lung cancer....there is a very clear correlation but it is less dramatic than a shooting in the High Street.

You cannot stop the tides, and you cannot stop a flu pandemic.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

I agree the ones that need to shelter should and the rest get on with it the age thing is not correct its more about your health status.

No such thing as herd immunity its simple your immune system can deal with it or it cant then you have it can with aid.

This is just like the flu but it is more rapid and can leave long term damage due to how aggressive immune system responds.

The whole how many people you know etc is just more rubbish as well testing is only done to people who have symptoms and even then lots of people do not have symptoms but can still have it so it's meaningless.

The suicides are nothing to do with this those people would of had issues already it's typical of people now days always making excuses or trying to put drama spins on things.

Regarding this second lock down complete waste of time should of done it correctly first time this govt is weak and doesn't have a clue what they are doing my wife has said this many times from the beginning and is glad she didn't stay here the country she is in and works in a hospital in fact runs the icu tropical/infectious diseases department has had hardly any cases not even 100 deaths.

Edited by grumpymort (01 Nov 2020 1.37pm)

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