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Petereagle Brockley 30 Jul 20 9.44am
[Link] This would be a good acquisition for the club? OK his form would need to improve and his salary negotiated down, but would be a good option, especially if Zaha moves on? He's has pace which is an element every team needs? [Link] At his best would definitely add some playmaker creativity in terms of making more chances upfront, but then look who we've got upfront! So a prolific goal scorer still the priority.... Edited by Petereagle (30 Jul 2020 9.50am)
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Brockley 30 Jul 20 9.44am

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This would be a good acquisition for the club? OK his form would need to improve and his salary negotiated down, but would be a good option, especially if Zaha moves on? He's has pace which is an element every team needs?

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At his best would definitely add some playmaker creativity in terms of making more chances upfront, but then look who we've got upfront! So a prolific goal scorer still the priority....

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Putitout Oxford 30 Jul 20 10.44am
Originally posted by Petereagle [Link] This would be a good acquisition for the club? OK his form would need to improve and his salary negotiated down, but would be a good option, especially if Zaha moves on? He's has pace which is an element every team needs? [Link] At his best would definitely add some playmaker creativity in terms of making more chances upfront, but then look who we've got upfront! So a prolific goal scorer still the priority.... Edited by Petereagle (30 Jul 2020 9.50am) Depending on his terms, this is the kind of deal, Palace tend to get into. A successful Outcome for most deals is usually about form, and Fraser, is a very busy, pacy, and effective player. Whether his type of player actually fits our most urgent needs is a probable counter to his availability. But who knows.
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Oxford 30 Jul 20 10.44am

Originally posted by Petereagle

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At his best would definitely add some playmaker creativity in terms of making more chances upfront, but then look who we've got upfront! So a prolific goal scorer still the priority....

Edited by Petereagle (30 Jul 2020 9.50am)

Depending on his terms, this is the kind of deal, Palace tend to get into. A successful Outcome for most deals is usually about form, and Fraser, is a very busy, pacy, and effective player. Whether his type of player actually fits our most urgent needs is a probable counter to his availability. But who knows.

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taylors lovechild 30 Jul 20 10.47am
I feel with this one that the only reason we'd win his signature is if we were the ones willing to pay the 100k he is looking for. Across 4 years that would be 20 million, plus he'd likely want a big signing fee. It seems very similar to the Wilf situation with us in that his form dipped last season due to speculation. I'm pretty sure his plan was never a move to Palace and my worry would be he may struggle for motivation. Dyche and Wilder have both done well by focusing on the mindset of players when dipping into the transfer market and I think for a club of our size we need to ensure we take a similar approach. If we could bring his wage down to say 70k pw and he is keen to join then it seems like a no brainer, but I just think at 70k pw someone like Spuds, Arsenal or Everton would take a punt.
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I feel with this one that the only reason we'd win his signature is if we were the ones willing to pay the 100k he is looking for. Across 4 years that would be 20 million, plus he'd likely want a big signing fee. It seems very similar to the Wilf situation with us in that his form dipped last season due to speculation. I'm pretty sure his plan was never a move to Palace and my worry would be he may struggle for motivation.

Dyche and Wilder have both done well by focusing on the mindset of players when dipping into the transfer market and I think for a club of our size we need to ensure we take a similar approach. If we could bring his wage down to say 70k pw and he is keen to join then it seems like a no brainer, but I just think at 70k pw someone like Spuds, Arsenal or Everton would take a punt.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jul 20 11.03am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild I feel with this one that the only reason we'd win his signature is if we were the ones willing to pay the 100k he is looking for. Across 4 years that would be 20 million, plus he'd likely want a big signing fee. It seems very similar to the Wilf situation with us in that his form dipped last season due to speculation. I'm pretty sure his plan was never a move to Palace and my worry would be he may struggle for motivation. Dyche and Wilder have both done well by focusing on the mindset of players when dipping into the transfer market and I think for a club of our size we need to ensure we take a similar approach. If we could bring his wage down to say 70k pw and he is keen to join then it seems like a no brainer, but I just think at 70k pw someone like Spuds, Arsenal or Everton would take a punt. Agreed, but can't see Fraser fitting the bill. Also, high wages is one of our biggest problems. We can't expect to increase the number of first team squad members until we get rid of some high earners. Assuming Wilf goes and if we can offload Sakho to Lyons, we will have the means to pay the wages of say 4-6 new players depending on age and experience. I'd rather our board keep their focus on getting younger players of real potential in.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jul 20 11.03am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Dyche and Wilder have both done well by focusing on the mindset of players when dipping into the transfer market and I think for a club of our size we need to ensure we take a similar approach. If we could bring his wage down to say 70k pw and he is keen to join then it seems like a no brainer, but I just think at 70k pw someone like Spuds, Arsenal or Everton would take a punt.

Agreed, but can't see Fraser fitting the bill.
Also, high wages is one of our biggest problems. We can't expect to increase the number of first team squad members until we get rid of some high earners. Assuming Wilf goes and if we can offload Sakho to Lyons, we will have the means to pay the wages of say 4-6 new players depending on age and experience.
I'd rather our board keep their focus on getting younger players of real potential in.

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slubglurge welling 30 Jul 20 11.24am
Our biggest problem in attracting attacking players is Roy. Anybody with flare would be put off by his turgid tactics. I would imagine its one of Wilfs issues too
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welling 30 Jul 20 11.24am

Our biggest problem in attracting attacking players is Roy. Anybody with flare would be put off by his turgid tactics. I would imagine its one of Wilfs issues too

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M1EAGLE Brisbane 30 Jul 20 1.00pm
What a ridiculous statement
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Brisbane 30 Jul 20 1.00pm

What a ridiculous statement

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Ian-VI Vicenza 30 Jul 20 1.23pm
Originally posted by slubglurge Our biggest problem in attracting attacking players is Roy. Anybody with flare would be put off by his turgid tactics. I would imagine its one of Wilfs issues too Just a question. Can you explain to me why he played with Ruben Loftus Cheek as an attacking midfielder when he had him, and hence didn't play with 3 DMs? The best footie management game: [Link]
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Vicenza 30 Jul 20 1.23pm

Originally posted by slubglurge

Our biggest problem in attracting attacking players is Roy. Anybody with flare would be put off by his turgid tactics. I would imagine its one of Wilfs issues too

Just a question.
Can you explain to me why he played with Ruben Loftus Cheek as an attacking midfielder when he had him, and hence didn't play with 3 DMs?

The best footie management game: [Link]

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oghash 30 Jul 20 1.50pm
He'd obviously be a good addition to the team but I'm not sure we'd be able to afford his, or at least want to afford his wages if he's looking for 100k a week. Why would anyone chose to be a Seagull? The Eagle is a far superior creature. The Seagull lives under it's damp pier meekly looking out, blinded by the sheer quality of the Eagle's palace.
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30 Jul 20 1.50pm

He'd obviously be a good addition to the team but I'm not sure we'd be able to afford his, or at least want to afford his wages if he's looking for 100k a week.

Why would anyone chose to be a Seagull? The Eagle is a far superior creature.

The Seagull lives under it's damp pier meekly looking out, blinded by the sheer quality of the Eagle's palace.

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Petereagle Brockley 30 Jul 20 9.18pm
Originally posted by oghash He'd obviously be a good addition to the team but I'm not sure we'd be able to afford his, or at least want to afford his wages if he's looking for 100k a week. [Link] Might be preparing a bid? Hope so. Even better if Wolf stays
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Brockley 30 Jul 20 9.18pm

Originally posted by oghash

He'd obviously be a good addition to the team but I'm not sure we'd be able to afford his, or at least want to afford his wages if he's looking for 100k a week.

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Might be preparing a bid? Hope so. Even better if Wolf stays

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Jacey 30 Jul 20 9.53pm
Originally posted by Petereagle [Link] Might be preparing a bid? Hope so. Even better if Wolf stays If we have a wolf,why have we not got some bite??
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30 Jul 20 9.53pm

Originally posted by Petereagle

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Might be preparing a bid? Hope so. Even better if Wolf stays

If we have a wolf,why have we not got some bite??

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Mapletree Croydon 30 Jul 20 10.54pm
Originally posted by Jacey If we have a wolf,why have we not got some bite?? Someone that can hit a howler. Who stands out from the pack. With the ability to put a lupine shot over a wall.
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Croydon 30 Jul 20 10.54pm

Originally posted by Jacey

If we have a wolf,why have we not got some bite??

Someone that can hit a howler. Who stands out from the pack. With the ability to put a lupine shot over a wall.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 30 Jul 20 10.58pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Someone that can hit a howler. Who stands out from the pack. With the ability to put a lupine shot over a wall. My mate used to have a pet wolf. He actually taught it to meditate. He’s aware wolf now "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 30 Jul 20 10.58pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Someone that can hit a howler. Who stands out from the pack. With the ability to put a lupine shot over a wall.

My mate used to have a pet wolf. He actually taught it to meditate.

He’s aware wolf now

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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