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steeleye20 Croydon 28 Jul 20 4.19pm
In what circumstances can VAR invoke a legal challenge? Bournemouth considering it apparently, a recent shocker of an evening which ended with the VAR people admitting their errors had affected 3 PL results, I think this was Villa v Sheff Utd. Their equipment was faulty (apparently) which should be their responsibility.
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steeleye20

Croydon 28 Jul 20 4.19pm

In what circumstances can VAR invoke a legal challenge?

Bournemouth considering it apparently, a recent shocker of an evening which ended with the VAR people admitting their errors had affected 3 PL results, I think this was Villa v Sheff Utd.

Their equipment was faulty (apparently) which should be their responsibility.

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CPFC1965 Warrington 28 Jul 20 4.25pm
Sour grapes from Bournemouth.
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Warrington 28 Jul 20 4.25pm

Sour grapes from Bournemouth.

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Superhorns3 Harpdenden 28 Jul 20 4.30pm
I don't think they can win.. Other teams could say but if this and that happened we would have done this. Also who knows if Villa would have lost that game.
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Superhorns3

Harpdenden 28 Jul 20 4.30pm

I don't think they can win..

Other teams could say but if this and that happened we would have done this.

Also who knows if Villa would have lost that game.

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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jul 20 6.21pm
It won't happen it's no different to a referee making a blunder unless you can prove intent it's just bad luck. One more point
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Beckenham 28 Jul 20 6.21pm

It won't happen it's no different to a referee making a blunder unless you can prove intent it's just bad luck.

One more point

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martin2412 Living The Dream 28 Jul 20 6.36pm
Originally posted by Badger11 It won't happen it's no different to a referee making a blunder unless you can prove intent it's just bad luck. Exactly. If it does happen then I want us to go after Clattenburg for cheating us out of the cup in 2016.
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martin2412

Living The Dream 28 Jul 20 6.36pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It won't happen it's no different to a referee making a blunder unless you can prove intent it's just bad luck.

Exactly. If it does happen then I want us to go after Clattenburg for cheating us out of the cup in 2016.

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Jul 20 7.18pm
Should have been challenged at the time. No chance of winning because no-one can say that Villa wouldn’t have won. If Sheff Utd aren’t challenging it... no chance
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Spiderman

Horsham 28 Jul 20 7.18pm

Should have been challenged at the time. No chance of winning because no-one can say that Villa wouldn’t have won. If Sheff Utd aren’t challenging it... no chance

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Jul 20 7.19pm
Originally posted by martin2412 Exactly. If it does happen then I want us to go after Clattenburg for cheating us out of the cup in 2016. Exactly he has admitted his errors but still laughs at his record when reffing Palace games
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Spiderman

Horsham 28 Jul 20 7.19pm

Originally posted by martin2412

Exactly. If it does happen then I want us to go after Clattenburg for cheating us out of the cup in 2016.

Exactly he has admitted his errors but still laughs at his record when reffing Palace games

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cryrst The garden of England 28 Jul 20 8.53pm
It's not VAR they are trying to blame. It's the Hawkeye thing as it didnt work to prove a ball had crossed the goal line. That being said they wernt good enough so they can be the small town in southampton again.
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cryrst

The garden of England 28 Jul 20 8.53pm

It's not VAR they are trying to blame.
It's the Hawkeye thing as it didnt work to prove a ball had crossed the goal line.
That being said they wernt good enough so they can be the small town in southampton again.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Jul 20 10.06pm
Originally posted by cryrst It's not VAR they are trying to blame. It's the Hawkeye thing as it didnt work to prove a ball had crossed the goal line. That being said they wernt good enough so they can be the small town in southampton again. Correct. The problem is no-one knows how the game would have finished if the goal had been awarded. The game would have restarted from the centre spot, instead of carrying on and would have followed a different course. IMHO Bournemouth will be wasting money by taking legal action on this one.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Jul 20 10.06pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Correct. The problem is no-one knows how the game would have finished if the goal had been awarded. The game would have restarted from the centre spot, instead of carrying on and would have followed a different course. IMHO Bournemouth will be wasting money by taking legal action on this one.

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Spiderman Horsham 29 Jul 20 7.05am
Originally posted by doombear Correct. The problem is no-one knows how the game would have finished if the goal had been awarded. The game would have restarted from the centre spot, instead of carrying on and would have followed a different course. IMHO Bournemouth will be wasting money by taking legal action on this one. Agreed
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Spiderman

Horsham 29 Jul 20 7.05am

Originally posted by doombear

Agreed

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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Jul 20 7.47am
Originally posted by cryrst It's not VAR they are trying to blame. It's the Hawkeye thing as it didnt work to prove a ball had crossed the goal line. That being said they wernt good enough so they can be the small town in southampton again. According to Hawkeye they had 7 cameras and by bad luck and for the first ever a player was blocking the view from each of them hence the technology failure. In human terms it is no different to the referee and linesman saying they didn't spot something because their view was obstructed. I believe the rules allow for mistakes to be made it's only if you can show that the referee was bribed or the technology sabotaged that you would have a case. Regarding the specific incident the solution lies with more technology in this case VAR. The VAR camera's clearly showed what happened so the VAR officials should have used their common-sense and alerted the referee that something was wrong and to go look at the monitor. Hopefully they have now been instructed to intervene which after all is the point of VAR a clear and obvious error. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 29 Jul 20 7.47am

Originally posted by cryrst

According to Hawkeye they had 7 cameras and by bad luck and for the first ever a player was blocking the view from each of them hence the technology failure.

In human terms it is no different to the referee and linesman saying they didn't spot something because their view was obstructed. I believe the rules allow for mistakes to be made it's only if you can show that the referee was bribed or the technology sabotaged that you would have a case.

Regarding the specific incident the solution lies with more technology in this case VAR. The VAR camera's clearly showed what happened so the VAR officials should have used their common-sense and alerted the referee that something was wrong and to go look at the monitor. Hopefully they have now been instructed to intervene which after all is the point of VAR a clear and obvious error.

One more point

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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Jul 20 9.21am
There were 2 other VAR failures that night. And that is the whole point, we have given VAR 2 years to get it right but it doesn't, causing more hold-ups more controversy and still making wrong decisions, in which case what is the point. In fact our PL football is becoming a lottery, there is no point in attending matches if it is decided remotely. I wanted it to succeed after seeing the success of DRS in cricket, but they are chalk and cheese. One benefit for those relegated is that they can play football once again without it. The more changes and allowances you make for VAR, the worse it becomes.
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steeleye20

Croydon 29 Jul 20 9.21am

There were 2 other VAR failures that night.

And that is the whole point, we have given VAR 2 years to get it right but it doesn't, causing more hold-ups more controversy and still making wrong decisions, in which case what is the point.

In fact our PL football is becoming a lottery, there is no point in attending matches if it is decided remotely.

I wanted it to succeed after seeing the success of DRS in cricket, but they are chalk and cheese.

One benefit for those relegated is that they can play football once again without it.

The more changes and allowances you make for VAR, the worse it becomes.

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