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HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Jun 20 8.26am | |
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Black Lives Matter is a political organisation with an extreme left wing anti capitalist / anarchic mission statement. In the UK there are two BLM groups, one is closely allied with the Socialist Workers Party. If the PL knows this then the decision to put on shirts is bizarre, if they don't know then shame on them for bandwagon jumping. The irony is BLM is diametrically opposed to the obscene money circulating in the PL. This is akin to PL telling players to wear messages about Palestine or Israel. Nobody in their right mind can be other than horrified by the killing of Mr Floyd in the USA, but the current zeitgeist is any criticism of BLM is automatically racist.
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YT Oxford 15 Jun 20 9.43am | |
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Staggering, isn't it?
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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jun 20 9.53am | |
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Bringing politics into sport is a very very bad move. BLM is not just about educating regarding 'racism',it goes way beyond that. The PL is yet another organisation pandering to the emperor new clothes effect and it has to stop. Political expediency is all around and none of this bears any relation to reality.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jun 20 10.09am | |
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This is not something I would do. As I have posted elsewhere I think it's the wrong message which perpetuates a problem rather than solving it. "All lives matter" would be better, although I suspect some in the anti-abortion movement would then try to hi-jack the intent. That said I don't believe the PL is actually associating themselves politically with the BLM organisation. They are associating themselves with the words and their meaning.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jun 20 10.10am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is not something I would do. As I have posted elsewhere I think it's the wrong message which perpetuates a problem rather than solving it. "All lives matter" would be better, although I suspect some in the anti-abortion movement would then try to hi-jack the intent. That said I don't believe the PL is actually associating themselves politically with the BLM organisation. They are associating themselves with the words and their meaning.
I agree, but don't we already have 'Kick it out' etc? Why the need to align with a far-left political movement?
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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jun 20 10.18am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is not something I would do. As I have posted elsewhere I think it's the wrong message which perpetuates a problem rather than solving it. "All lives matter" would be better, although I suspect some in the anti-abortion movement would then try to hi-jack the intent. That said I don't believe the PL is actually associating themselves politically with the BLM organisation. They are associating themselves with the words and their meaning.
And what is that meaning? Division.
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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Jun 20 10.30am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I agree, but don't we already have 'Kick it out' etc? Why the need to align with a far-left political movement? Exactly football has it's own anti racist organisation which they now appear to be side lining for a far left bunch of Marxists.
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Mapletree Croydon 15 Jun 20 10.33am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Black Lives Matter is a political organisation with an extreme left wing anti capitalist / anarchic mission statement. In the UK there are two BLM groups, one is closely allied with the Socialist Workers Party. If the PL knows this then the decision to put on shirts is bizarre, if they don't know then shame on them for bandwagon jumping. The irony is BLM is diametrically opposed to the obscene money circulating in the PL. This is akin to PL telling players to wear messages about Palestine or Israel. Nobody in their right mind can be other than horrified by the killing of Mr Floyd in the USA, but the current zeitgeist is any criticism of BLM is automatically racist. Your very first line is incorrect which affects your whole post. BLM is not an organisation, it's effectively a philosophy as with 'Me Too'.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jun 20 10.33am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I agree, but don't we already have 'Kick it out' etc? Why the need to align with a far-left political movement? We can only guess but I suppose it's a reaction to events and to show solidarity with the many players who feel strongly about the issue. As I said, I don't think they are associating themselves with a political movement. They are using words which convey a sentiment.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jun 20 10.35am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And what is that meaning? Division. Not in any way. Unless the one hearing it seeks to divide.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jun 20 10.35am | |
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Wouldn't it have been nice to see NHS/Care 'Thank You' emblazoned on the shirts instead of the players names but the PL have jumped on the BLM bandwagon. "We stand together" T-shirts, taking a knee etc etc etc Edited by Willo (15 Jun 2020 10.43am)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jun 20 11.42am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Wouldn't it have been nice to see NHS/Care 'Thank You' emblazoned on the shirts instead of the players names but the PL have jumped on the BLM bandwagon. "We stand together" T-shirts, taking a knee etc etc etc Edited by Willo (15 Jun 2020 10.43am) I believe they are having a NHS tribute too.
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