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 Matov  04 Feb 20 12.10pm |
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The Democrats are off to a flying start... LOL. They really don't want Sanders to win. As to the ultimate outcome still far to early to make a call. One thing though is the Trump rallies. Still drawing huge crowds with people sleeping through the night to get into them. The economy is strong, his approval ratings have held up so I suspect it is his to lose but we shall see.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Feb 20 12.24pm |
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Can't see past Trump unless The Democrats completely change candidates. Somebody like Michelle Obama would probably win easily - the band wagon would be full pretty quickly.
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| Matov 04 Feb 20 12.37pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Can't see past Trump... A little wary myself. The US electoral college can sometimes make victories appear a lot more decisive than they actually were. Trump not winning the popular vote was not unexpected given how skewed the figures are in places such as California (imagine Islington with beaches and better weather) but his actual victory came down to less than 100,000 votes. Does not take much to swing that. I want Trump to win but felt far more confidence in him last time around. US politics is a filthy business and he was not meant to win in 2016. Cannot see its Establishment making the same mistakes this time although the evidence on display so far perhaps contradicts that.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Feb 20 12.41pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
A little wary myself. The US electoral college can sometimes make victories appear a lot more decisive than they actually were. Trump not winning the popular vote was not unexpected given how skewed the figures are in places such as California (imagine Islington with beaches and better weather) but his actual victory came down to less than 100,000 votes. Does not take much to swing that. I want Trump to win but felt far more confidence in him last time around. US politics is a filthy business and he was not meant to win in 2016. Cannot see its Establishment making the same mistakes this time although the evidence on display so far perhaps contradicts that. In a two party system there has to be a viable alternative. Maybe it's just my view, but the alternatives seem incredibly weak.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 04 Feb 20 1.00pm |
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Hilary is still hovering in the background. I think she is hoping that as the current list of wannabees lurch from one disaster to another that Democratic voters will demand she enter the race. I suspect most politicians love the conceit "cometh the hour cometh the (wo)man e.g. Churchill replacing Chamberlain but I can't see that happening here. It's Trump's to lose.
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| Matov 04 Feb 20 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
In a two party system there has to be a viable alternative. Maybe it's just my view, but the alternatives seem incredibly weak.
They have already changed their rules to allow Bloomberg to make his presence felt and I suspect they feel that it might be better for them to have another Billionaire (and one MUCH richer than Trump) as their candidate or at least willing to fund them. Which I suspect he will not do if Sanders wins the nomination. But what is going on in Iowa stinks the more and more I read about it.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Feb 20 3.18pm |
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Iowa caucus: 'I'm the winner' says Trump.
You know what, he probably is.....at least when it comes to the memes. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Feb 2020 3.19pm)
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 georgenorman 05 Feb 20 8.50am |
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Nancy Pelosi, the John Bercow of the USA.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 05 Feb 20 9.01am |
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Originally posted by Matov
They have already changed their rules to allow Bloomberg to make his presence felt and I suspect they feel that it might be better for them to have another Billionaire (and one MUCH richer than Trump) as their candidate or at least willing to fund them. Which I suspect he will not do if Sanders wins the nomination. But what is going on in Iowa stinks the more and more I read about it. I am surprised that the Democrats haven't blame Trump or Russia for this fiasco it certainly has done them no favours with the voters, and none of the candidates have emerged with any credit either. Edited by Badger11 (05 Feb 2020 9.02am)
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| Matov 05 Feb 20 12.21pm |
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An interesting ride awaits, that much is for sure.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Feb 20 12.41pm |
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Trump isn't going to stop demographic replacement in the US but his state of the union address contained some pretty based stuff and of course.....the republicans have shown up those who claimed that Trump would wreck their economy.
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| W12 05 Feb 20 1.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Trump isn't going to stop demographic replacement in the US but his state of the union address contained some pretty based stuff and of course.....the republicans have shown up those who claimed that Trump would wreck their economy. I'm no great admirer of Trump but he's infinately better than any of the democrats. Also, a lot better than our own Boris Johnson.
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