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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 18 Jan 20 9.31pm
Half the England heroes in this team and and been found out, breaking the rules, or cheating! Should be stripped of any titles including last seasons european cup, relegation next season, what an embarassment, makes you wonder why we pay to watch sport sometimes and take an interest, from us getting robbed of our european place in 91 to let a more glam Liverpool back in, after the deaths of 39 people, makes you wonder whats not corrupted!
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Any european country i fancy! 18 Jan 20 9.31pm

Half the England heroes in this team and and been found out, breaking the rules, or cheating! Should be stripped of any titles including last seasons european cup, relegation next season, what an embarassment, makes you wonder why we pay to watch sport sometimes and take an interest, from us getting robbed of our european place in 91 to let a more glam Liverpool back in, after the deaths of 39 people, makes you wonder whats not corrupted!

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CPFC1965 Warrington 18 Jan 20 9.47pm
Saracens will get what they deserve. As to the other...get over it.
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Warrington 18 Jan 20 9.47pm

Saracens will get what they deserve.

As to the other...get over it.

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sydtheeagle England 22 Jan 20 9.03am
Saracens might get what they deserve but Exeter (in particular) and the other eleven clubs WON'T get what they deserve. So it's not quite as simple as "get over it". Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 22 Jan 20 9.03am

Saracens might get what they deserve but Exeter (in particular) and the other eleven clubs WON'T get what they deserve. So it's not quite as simple as "get over it".

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 9.13am
I personally do not agree with wage caps - particularly when none of the other nations have them. Are English clubs supposed to operate with one arm tied behind their backs? They are up against Irish provinces such as Leinster which is basically half the country and French sides with wealthy benefactors. Not seeing any upside for English rugby. And I don't support Saracens. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 9.13am

I personally do not agree with wage caps - particularly when none of the other nations have them. Are English clubs supposed to operate with one arm tied behind their backs?
They are up against Irish provinces such as Leinster which is basically half the country and French sides with wealthy benefactors. Not seeing any upside for English rugby.
And I don't support Saracens.

Red and Blue Army!

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Jan 20 9.56am
Agreed. Rugby is in the absolute dark ages, especially in the UK. We think of World Cup success as a yardstick. It shouldn't be. We should be pissing world cups AND building a far stronger grass roots AND giving our clubs a chance to flourish. But we play against pisspot little countries and rejoice at reaching semis and finals and winning the odd six nations. it's well within our power to take the English game miles ahead of anyone else. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Agreed. Rugby is in the absolute dark ages, especially in the UK.

We think of World Cup success as a yardstick. It shouldn't be. We should be pissing world cups AND building a far stronger grass roots AND giving our clubs a chance to flourish.

But we play against pisspot little countries and rejoice at reaching semis and finals and winning the odd six nations.

it's well within our power to take the English game miles ahead of anyone else.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 12.46pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig Agreed. Rugby is in the absolute dark ages, especially in the UK. We think of World Cup success as a yardstick. It shouldn't be. We should be pissing world cups AND building a far stronger grass roots AND giving our clubs a chance to flourish. But we play against pisspot little countries and rejoice at reaching semis and finals and winning the odd six nations. it's well within our power to take the English game miles ahead of anyone else. Pisspot little countries that are miles ahead of england without cheating, munster and leinster winning eupopean cups all the time, saracens get one, by default, should be stripped of it to be fair, its the chelsea thing again but in rugby, and Ireland, Wales and France are better or at least on par with england, Ireland were no 1 in world followed by the all blacks for most of last year!
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Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 12.46pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Agreed. Rugby is in the absolute dark ages, especially in the UK.

We think of World Cup success as a yardstick. It shouldn't be. We should be pissing world cups AND building a far stronger grass roots AND giving our clubs a chance to flourish.

But we play against pisspot little countries and rejoice at reaching semis and finals and winning the odd six nations.

it's well within our power to take the English game miles ahead of anyone else.

Pisspot little countries that are miles ahead of england without cheating, munster and leinster winning eupopean cups all the time, saracens get one, by default, should be stripped of it to be fair, its the chelsea thing again but in rugby, and Ireland, Wales and France are better or at least on par with england, Ireland were no 1 in world followed by the all blacks for most of last year!

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Jan 20 1.20pm
absolutely If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Jan 20 1.20pm

absolutely

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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Fatherken 22 Jan 20 1.45pm
yes Saracens got caught out and got relegated . £7m for a team of around 40 players . I am sure [ I don't really know ]that some football perm players get that in a year The interesting things is there is no pay cap in the championship rugby .
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22 Jan 20 1.45pm

yes Saracens got caught out and got relegated .
£7m for a team of around 40 players .
I am sure [ I don't really know ]that some football perm players get that in a year
The interesting things is there is no pay cap in the championship rugby .

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 1.50pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Pisspot little countries that are miles ahead of england without cheating, munster and leinster winning eupopean cups all the time, saracens get one, by default, should be stripped of it to be fair, its the chelsea thing again but in rugby, and Ireland, Wales and France are better or at least on par with england, Ireland were no 1 in world followed by the all blacks for most of last year! Saracens are the only team to have won twice in a row - in fact something like three out of four and in four of the last five finals. There is no wage cap in the European Cup/Heineken Cup because if there was then the French teams would not be in it. As for Leinster and Munster, if you could be bothered to look into it - you would find exactly the same irregularities - companies set up to give players more money, or private benefactors paying wages that the provinces can't afford. Other than that, really should provinces be playing clubs - i think it should be looked at? How exactly did the world's no 1 team do at the World Cup? Watch out for those panes of glass. As for the rest - the only Northern Hemisphere team to have won a World Cup is England. I hope Ireland are still ranked above England as that demonstrates what a total joke the rankings are. What were the recent scores between the two sides - do you need reminding? Ireland were sh!te at the world cup and no amount of cheating would have even helped. If it could, I'm sure it would have been done - judging by Ireland's olympic record and Jamie Heaslip's autobiography where he quite clearly demonstrated a doping culture - which he was too stupid to even realise he had done. Edited by ASCPFC (22 Jan 2020 1.52pm) Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 1.50pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Saracens are the only team to have won twice in a row - in fact something like three out of four and in four of the last five finals. There is no wage cap in the European Cup/Heineken Cup because if there was then the French teams would not be in it.
As for Leinster and Munster, if you could be bothered to look into it - you would find exactly the same irregularities - companies set up to give players more money, or private benefactors paying wages that the provinces can't afford. Other than that, really should provinces be playing clubs - i think it should be looked at?
How exactly did the world's no 1 team do at the World Cup? Watch out for those panes of glass. As for the rest - the only Northern Hemisphere team to have won a World Cup is England. I hope Ireland are still ranked above England as that demonstrates what a total joke the rankings are. What were the recent scores between the two sides - do you need reminding?
Ireland were sh!te at the world cup and no amount of cheating would have even helped. If it could, I'm sure it would have been done - judging by Ireland's olympic record and Jamie Heaslip's autobiography where he quite clearly demonstrated a doping culture - which he was too stupid to even realise he had done.

Edited by ASCPFC (22 Jan 2020 1.52pm)

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Jan 20 1.55pm
actually...not miles ahead of us, but I agree with the premise If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Jan 20 1.55pm

actually...not miles ahead of us, but I agree with the premise

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 1.59pm
Originally posted by sydtheeagle Saracens might get what they deserve but Exeter (in particular) and the other eleven clubs WON'T get what they deserve. So it's not quite as simple as "get over it". Hi Syd - miss the old rugby banter - you never agree with me but that's what forums are all about. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jan 20 1.59pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Saracens might get what they deserve but Exeter (in particular) and the other eleven clubs WON'T get what they deserve. So it's not quite as simple as "get over it".

Hi Syd - miss the old rugby banter - you never agree with me but that's what forums are all about.

Red and Blue Army!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 2.13pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Saracens are the only team to have won twice in a row - in fact something like three out of four and in four of the last five finals. There is no wage cap in the European Cup/Heineken Cup because if there was then the French teams would not be in it. As for Leinster and Munster, if you could be bothered to look into it - you would find exactly the same irregularities - companies set up to give players more money, or private benefactors paying wages that the provinces can't afford. Other than that, really should provinces be playing clubs - i think it should be looked at? How exactly did the world's no 1 team do at the World Cup? Watch out for those panes of glass. As for the rest - the only Northern Hemisphere team to have won a World Cup is England. I hope Ireland are still ranked above England as that demonstrates what a total joke the rankings are. What were the recent scores between the two sides - do you need reminding? Ireland were sh!te at the world cup and no amount of cheating would have even helped. If it could, I'm sure it would have been done - judging by Ireland's olympic record and Jamie Heaslip's autobiography where he quite clearly demonstrated a doping culture - which he was too stupid to even realise he had done. Ireland and wales, both around 5 million population, on par if not better than england, population above 65 million, i think i rest my case!Its not just the cheating that gets me, its the way you drink it up, turning a blind eye if it suits your cause, sir mo farah, the somalian, sir bradley wiggins, the belgian, sir chris hoye, somewhere in africa i think, but all british,,,,,,and none of them touched a bit of the steroids delivered to their coaches base, all good british athletes, all completely roid free, now saracens, you enjoy it if it gives you a buzz ,nothing wrong with living on fantasy island if it makes you happy!
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Any european country i fancy! 22 Jan 20 2.13pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Ireland and wales, both around 5 million population, on par if not better than england, population above 65 million, i think i rest my case!Its not just the cheating that gets me, its the way you drink it up, turning a blind eye if it suits your cause, sir mo farah, the somalian, sir bradley wiggins, the belgian, sir chris hoye, somewhere in africa i think, but all british,,,,,,and none of them touched a bit of the steroids delivered to their coaches base, all good british athletes, all completely roid free, now saracens, you enjoy it if it gives you a buzz ,nothing wrong with living on fantasy island if it makes you happy!

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