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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 19 6.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

When I grew up comedians were anti establishment and stood for free speech and were against restrictions on just about anything.

Now I'm not a fan of the affect that 'liberal' values has had on the west but I can at least respect the core of intent it had for free speech.

Look at the affect political correctness has now had.....Look at the s***e that's on your TV screens nowadays.

The left use to produce genuinely great comedians but now they have drawn boundaries on what can be said in a fashion that those comedians of the past would have found far more shocking that what the righteous right could do.

Here's a video where Sargon talks to Alistair Williams, a comedian who is fighting back against the comedy establishment.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Nov 2019 6.33pm)

 


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YT Flag Oxford 05 Nov 19 6.40pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Political correctness - such as outrage at football fans having a pop at an opposing player's attention-seeking wife? Would have been fair game back in the day, 'Posh' being a classic example.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 19 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Political correctness - such as outrage at football fans having a pop at an opposing player's attention-seeking wife? Would have been fair game back in the day, 'Posh' being a classic example.

Yep, I think its valid to criticise some of the idiots in crowds but I also think its dangerous and invalid to believe it's right to censor crowds.

Crowds are an honest reflection of society. It isn't a good or bad thing it's reality and some of us want to deny reality or present an untrue picture.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 19 6.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Crowds can also be fecking funny and as we have seen....once you start screwing around with what people can say....you throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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samprior Flag Hamburg 05 Nov 19 9.08pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When I grew up comedians were anti establishment and stood for free speech and were against restrictions on just about anything.

Now I'm not a fan of the affect that 'liberal' values has had on the west but I can at least respect the core of intent it had for free speech.

Look at the affect political correctness has now had.....Look at the s***e that's on your TV screens nowadays.

The left use to produce genuinely great comedians but now they have drawn boundaries on what can be said in a fashion that those comedians of the past would have found far more shocking that what the righteous right could do.

Here's a video where Sargon talks to Alistair Williams, a comedian who is fighting back against the comedy establishment.

[Link]


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Nov 2019 6.33pm)

That Sargon fella looks like he's taken his dog collar off for the day.

Couldn't find any clips of the comedian's 'super popular' show so can't judge whether it's any good or not. Most stuff you find on TV these days is pretty safe but I'd put that down to producers going for mainstream viewing figures rather than something 'edgy'.

Saying that I watched the recent Dave Chapelle stand ups recently and he's about as big as you get. Some I liked some I didn't but one thing you can't call it is politically correct.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 19 9.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

That Sargon fella looks like he's taken his dog collar off for the day.

Couldn't find any clips of the comedian's 'super popular' show so can't judge whether it's any good or not. Most stuff you find on TV these days is pretty safe but I'd put that down to producers going for mainstream viewing figures rather than something 'edgy'.

Saying that I watched the recent Dave Chapelle stand ups recently and he's about as big as you get. Some I liked some I didn't but one thing you can't call it is politically correct.

I remember when the BBC had 'edgy' humour on it, it was very popular.

What they don't want now is complaints from a certain political demographic because the kind of people running the BBC are the kind of people who agree with the those complainers. The recent intervention by Hall brings this into sharp relief.

Dave Chapelle is famous over decades and ticks a lot of the 'identity' boxes that make it harder to 'cancel' him. Also, his special made money and at the end of the day some private TV companies still want to make some.


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ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 05 Nov 19 9.21pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Laughter can be the most beautiful thing but also the nastiest. It's the sprit in which it's done - there is some zero taste no boundaries stuff by Derek and Clive which I love, I liked the anarchism of Bernard Manning and the way he used to confront sanctimonious hypocrites, but too often he was an ignorant w*nker, Chubby Brown is a great comic, but some of his anti-black stuff is so unintelligent it almost doesn't qualify for racism - it's just pure sh*te, met plenty of warm hearted unpc folk and some pc fascists … two things: the 'as long as it makes you laugh' excuse is b*ll*x, and so is Jim Davidson.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 19 9.26pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

Laughter can be the most beautiful thing but also the nastiest. It's the sprit in which it's done - there is some zero taste no boundaries stuff by Derek and Clive which I love, I liked the anarchism of Bernard Manning and the way he used to confront sanctimonious hypocrites, but too often he was an ignorant w*nker, Chubby Brown is a great comic, but some of his anti-black stuff is so unintelligent it almost doesn't qualify for racism - it's just pure sh*te, met plenty of warm hearted unpc folk and some pc fascists … two things: the 'as long as it makes you laugh' excuse is b*ll*x, and so is Jim Davidson.

Not really, the 'as long as its funny' idea goes a long way.

You have the 'off switch' others should be allowed the 'on switch'. Institutions like the BBC insist on a general tax that is hard to opt out of....not a 'only what I like' tax.

I don't remember the Tories stopping very left wing comedians back in the day.

Being a moral guardian is no different to the behaviour the religious right insisted upon and the left use to campaign against.

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 19 9.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Oh and watching Bernard Manning gave me diabetes.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Nov 19 10.38pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


There is a bit of kick back from Chris Rock, and Dave Chappelle. John Cleese and Jerry Seinfeld have both spoken out against PC culture. Bill Burr has never bothered much about it and Jerry Sadowitz still seems to go out of his way to be as offensive as possible, his Fringe show this year left some punters looking quite shell shocked.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 19 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


There is a bit of kick back from Chris Rock, and Dave Chappelle. John Cleese and Jerry Seinfeld have both spoken out against PC culture. Bill Burr has never bothered much about it and Jerry Sadowitz still seems to go out of his way to be as offensive as possible, his Fringe show this year left some punters looking quite shell shocked.

Yep....but no current working British TV comedian....excepting Ricky Gervais and is he still doing TV?

Where is the funny new talent coming up? If they do something offensive or against the 'woke' brigade and agenda they are instantly attacked and no longer booked by the main outlets.

Pretty much as this guy says.

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W12 05 Nov 19 11.01pm

The problem is the left have a cultural monopoly and they have left no space at all for comedy.

Expect the revival of comedy to be a huge backlash against PC culture. There are already signs it’s coming soon.

 

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