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 ex hibitionist  Hastings 10 Oct 18 9.27pm |
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In a mad moment of clarity I think this is the kind of radical breath of fresh air, an existential leap that could make Brexit work -otherwise we are choosing the world of Trump and Putin over the world of Macron and Merkel. Or maybe tone down the monarchies like the Scandinavians and Dutch have done - it hasn't done them any harm, they are fare more advanced societies than ours. Just a thought.
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| YT Oxford 10 Oct 18 10.22pm |
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We only have one monarchy. By tone down, I assume you mean take some money away from them. Constitutionally they can’t be toned down much further. Edited by YT (10 Oct 2018 10.23pm)
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 10 Oct 18 10.53pm |
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yes they bloody can
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| Mapletree Croydon 10 Oct 18 11.18pm |
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I don’t want a president thank you all the same.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Oct 18 11.55pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I don’t want a president thank you all the same. So glad you voted for Brexit than. I can't remember voting for Donald Tusk either......
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| Badger11 Beckenham 11 Oct 18 8.16am |
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I would prefer a republic but the majority of the country still love the Royal family. Personally I am very fond of our queen who has done a brilliant job, the rest of her family not so much. The problem we republicans have is what do you replace the monarchy with, there is no consensus as the Australians discovered. Do you want a President like the USA / France or a figure head like Ireland. If you go for a figure head you may end up with the human equivalent of boaty mcboat face e.g. President Lilly Allen. For now I say leave things as they are. There are constitutional changes that should be made after our queen departs this mortal coil. Before Charles III is enthroned we should disestablish the Church of England the only other countries that have a state religion you would probably not want to live in. Currently the monarch cannot be catholic that needs to be changed. Personally I don't care what they are it is a matter of conscience but the head of the Church of England should not be the monarch but the Archbishop of Canterbury and that role should be selected by the church and not the Prime Minister. There are probably other technical changes as well including for instance a term limit. In Scandinavia the monarchs abdicate when they feel no longer up to the job and this is no big deal. Our queen in her coronation oath took this as a job for life her successors should not be lumbered with that.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Oct 18 12.28pm |
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The Royals have no more right to be royal that I do. However. In practical terms, if we deprived the Royals of their titles and sold off their land etc, I'm sure it would be acquired by some Arab or American in no time. No thanks. Despite being silly, I vote that we keep Her Maj and all that sail with her. PS. My favorite Royal was Prince Albert. We have a football team because of him(sort Of).
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Pussay Patrol  11 Oct 18 12.56pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I would prefer a republic but the majority of the country still love the Royal family. Personally I am very fond of our queen who has done a brilliant job, the rest of her family not so much. The problem we republicans have is what do you replace the monarchy with, there is no consensus as the Australians discovered. Do you want a President like the USA / France or a figure head like Ireland. If you go for a figure head you may end up with the human equivalent of boaty mcboat face e.g. President Lilly Allen. For now I say leave things as they are. There are constitutional changes that should be made after our queen departs this mortal coil. Before Charles III is enthroned we should disestablish the Church of England the only other countries that have a state religion you would probably not want to live in. Currently the monarch cannot be catholic that needs to be changed. Personally I don't care what they are it is a matter of conscience but the head of the Church of England should not be the monarch but the Archbishop of Canterbury and that role should be selected by the church and not the Prime Minister. There are probably other technical changes as well including for instance a term limit. In Scandinavia the monarchs abdicate when they feel no longer up to the job and this is no big deal. Our queen in her coronation oath took this as a job for life her successors should not be lumbered with that. I think William and Harry are brilliant, they don't come across as stuck up or pretentious, do fantastic work for charity, the way they came out and raised awareness for mental health and talked openly about their own personal troubles was admirable, there's the invictus games.
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| Stirlingsays 11 Oct 18 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The Royals have no more right to be royal that I do. However. In practical terms, if we deprived the Royals of their titles and sold off their land etc, I'm sure it would be acquired by some Arab or American in no time. No thanks. Despite being silly, I vote that we keep Her Maj and all that sail with her. PS. My favorite Royal was Prince Albert. We have a football team because of him(sort Of). Spot on. It's all bullcrap but it's better bullcrap than a republic.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 11 Oct 18 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Spot on. It's all bullcrap but it's better bullcrap than a republic. I think it's more important that we have a proper, written Constitution. Now, more than ever, the individual citizen needs protection from the ever-increasing encroachment of the State. I'm happy to see that under a much-reduced constitutional monarchy which is what it'll be after HM croaks anyway.
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Oct 18 1.55pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The Royals have no more right to be royal that I do. However. In practical terms, if we deprived the Royals of their titles and sold off their land etc, I'm sure it would be acquired by some Arab or American in no time. No thanks. Despite being silly, I vote that we keep Her Maj and all that sail with her. PS. My favorite Royal was Prince Albert. We have a football team because of him(sort Of). Willo is speaking to his lawyers as I type !!
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| Stirlingsays 11 Oct 18 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I think it's more important that we have a proper, written Constitution. Now, more than ever, the individual citizen needs protection from the ever-increasing encroachment of the State. I'm happy to see that under a much-reduced constitutional monarchy which is what it'll be after HM croaks anyway.
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