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 johnno42000  10 Aug 18 6.15pm |
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In work today had a conversation about who decides what is morally right and what is morally wrong (it all started about Boris Johnson). My opinion was that every individual decides what is morally acceptable for them and it is wrong to impose other peoples morals on a person. It got a bit deep then and points were made regarding imposing morals on your children and society imposing it's (learnt) morals on everyone. People started quoting philosophers!! Jonathan Dancey, Immanuel Kant etc. I then sent round the Monty Python philosophers song and laughter ensued. I work with many young degree holding people so it was interesting to see what they thought. The morality of murdering a young Hitler even came up. So who decides what is morally right and wrong? This quiz didn't help matters either [Link] I was one of only 2 people who came out as immoral
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 Hrolf The Ganger  10 Aug 18 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
In work today had a conversation about who decides what is morally right and what is morally wrong (it all started about Boris Johnson). My opinion was that every individual decides what is morally acceptable for them and it is wrong to impose other peoples morals on a person. It got a bit deep then and points were made regarding imposing morals on your children and society imposing it's (learnt) morals on everyone. People started quoting philosophers!! Jonathan Dancey, Immanuel Kant etc. I then sent round the Monty Python philosophers song and laughter ensued. I work with many young degree holding people so it was interesting to see what they thought. The morality of murdering a young Hitler even came up. So who decides what is morally right and wrong? This quiz didn't help matters either [Link] I was one of only 2 people who came out as immoral Morality, like fashion, is ever changing and flexible. It is usually determined by consensus and by societal pressures. Aside that, individuals seem to have a rage of natural tendencies that are either created by nature or nurture or both.
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| PALACE FOR EVER London 10 Aug 18 11.52pm |
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What some people feel is moral or immoral can been chosen on what religion they have. Their religion chooses this for them, although this can change as times change. Parental influence can go either way. Some children follow their parents, some want to go against them as they don't want to be imposed on (teenage rebellion?).
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 11 Aug 18 1.16am |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
In work today had a conversation about who decides what is morally right and what is morally wrong (it all started about Boris Johnson). My opinion was that every individual decides what is morally acceptable for them and it is wrong to impose other peoples morals on a person. It got a bit deep then and points were made regarding imposing morals on your children and society imposing it's (learnt) morals on everyone. People started quoting philosophers!! Jonathan Dancey, Immanuel Kant etc. I then sent round the Monty Python philosophers song and laughter ensued. I work with many young degree holding people so it was interesting to see what they thought. The morality of murdering a young Hitler even came up. So who decides what is morally right and wrong? This quiz didn't help matters either [Link] I was one of only 2 people who came out as immoral I think sticking to the 10 Commandments is a pretty good basis.
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| Midlands Eagle 11 Aug 18 5.52am |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
My opinion was that every individual decides what is morally acceptable for them and it is wrong to impose other peoples morals on a person.
That means that paedophilia is morally acceptable to a paedophile
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 18 6.07am |
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Morality seems to have some key influences for the individual. Upbringing, religion and peer pressure are just some of them. A concensus of what is acceptable is enshrined in law. The workplace (in my experiences) is the place where morality goes out the window. 53x, violence, corruption, blackmail, lying, . . it all happens at work. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Aug 2018 6.10am)
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 18 6.21am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
That means that paedophilia is morally acceptable to a paedophile I think we all know right from wrong. Even kiddy-fiddlers. It becomes easier to deviate from a moral course of action when 'urges', and greed are primary drivers
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| johnno42000 11 Aug 18 9.50am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
That means that paedophilia is morally acceptable to a paedophile I think that they will develop a belief system that says, to them, that it is morally right. I agree to a huge majority this is repugnant and immoral and that is their beliefs (and very right in my opinion).
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| johnno42000 11 Aug 18 9.52am |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I think sticking to the 10 Commandments is a pretty good basis. Not so sure. What about the Hitler point and the quiz questions? Do you never murder even if it could be to save millions? Do you never steal even if it stopped a nuclear weapon falling into the hands of a total nutjob?
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| johnno42000 11 Aug 18 9.53am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Morality seems to have some key influences for the individual. Upbringing, religion and peer pressure are just some of them. A concensus of what is acceptable is enshrined in law. The workplace (in my experiences) is the place where morality goes out the window. 53x, violence, corruption, blackmail, lying, . . it all happens at work. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Aug 2018 6.10am) I never knew you worked for the Welsh NHS
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 11 Aug 18 11.44am |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I think sticking to the 10 Commandments is a pretty good basis. Too Jewish
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 11 Aug 18 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
Not so sure. What about the Hitler point and the quiz questions? Do you never murder even if it could be to save millions? Do you never steal even if it stopped a nuclear weapon falling into the hands of a total nutjob? I'd say they're a good basis for every-day life. Your examples are extreme and would have to be weighed up individually.
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