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 Stirlingsays  30 Jun 18 3.23pm |
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Jury from London fail to reach a verdict on that driver arrested for the planning of a sword attack at Buck house. Like Douglas Murray says, this country has signed its own suicide note. This is the letter he wrote to his sister that detectives found: ''To my dearest sister, By the time you read this Insha'Allah [God willing] I will be with Allah. 'Do not cry and be strong. The Shaheed [witness or martyr] will take 70 members of his family with him to paradise. I will take you there Insha'Allah. 'Tell everyone I love them and that they should struggle against the enemies of Allah …The Queen and her soldiers will all be in the hellfire, they go to war with Muslims around the world and kill them without any mercy.'
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cryrst  The garden of England 30 Jun 18 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Jury from London fail to reach a verdict on that driver arrested for the planning of a sword attack at Buck house. Like Douglas Murray says, this country has signed its own suicide note. This is the letter he wrote to his sister that detectives found: ''To my dearest sister, By the time you read this Insha'Allah [God willing] I will be with Allah. 'Do not cry and be strong. The Shaheed [witness or martyr] will take 70 members of his family with him to paradise. I will take you there Insha'Allah. 'Tell everyone I love them and that they should struggle against the enemies of Allah …The Queen and her soldiers will all be in the hellfire, they go to war with Muslims around the world and kill them without any mercy.' Clearly not enough evidence as it wasn't 35mph in a 30 or racist or anti LGBT.
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| Stirlingsays 30 Jun 18 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Clearly not enough evidence as it wasn't 35mph in a 30 or racist or anti LGBT. Yeah, maybe he should have been on a suspended sentence and filming outside a court.
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| YT Oxford 30 Jun 18 4.52pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Clearly not enough evidence as it wasn't 35mph in a 30 or racist or anti LGBT. Who is "they"?
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| Stirlingsays 30 Jun 18 6.15pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Who is "they"? Obviously it's the establishment.
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| YT Oxford 30 Jun 18 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Obviously it's the establishment. The establishment has put him on trial. It’s a jury that’s failed to reach a verdict. Are you suggesting that the establishment should have the power to override a criminal court?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 30 Jun 18 7.29pm |
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Originally posted by YT
The establishment has put him on trial. It’s a jury that’s failed to reach a verdict. Are you suggesting that the establishment should have the power to override a criminal court? We don't know what happens in the jury room and that's how it should be.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 30 Jun 18 7.31pm |
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Originally posted by YT
The establishment has put him on trial. It’s a jury that’s failed to reach a verdict. Are you suggesting that the establishment should have the power to override a criminal court? Perhaps the bulk of the jury are sympathisers ?
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| YT Oxford 30 Jun 18 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Perhaps the bulk of the jury are sympathisers ? That’s the system, I’m afraid. Your comment could apply to any jury in any court in respect of any defendant, and there’s nowt ‘they’ can do about it.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 30 Jun 18 7.53pm |
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Originally posted by YT
That’s the system, I’m afraid. Your comment could apply to any jury in any court in respect of any defendant, and there’s nowt ‘they’ can do about it. Yep, but as the country becomes more and more Muslim, the likelihood of Muslim terrorists being convicted becomes less and less.
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| YT Oxford 30 Jun 18 9.23pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Yep, but as the country becomes more and more Muslim, the likelihood of Muslim terrorists being convicted becomes less and less. What would you suggest as a solution then?
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 30 Jun 18 9.39pm |
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Originally posted by YT
What would you suggest as a solution then? I've always thought that the jury system is flawed. The defendant's life could be in the hands of people who have either low intelligence, are racist, are ill-informed, weak, etc etc. A panel of judges or lawyers should be the decision makers, especially in complex cases imo.
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