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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 27 Jun 18 8.30pm |
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In France. No real risk of mass slaughter in the absence of colonial wars in N Africa or Indo-China but good for teaching a generation of effete, cosseted Facebook-obssessed ponces about social responsibility. We should do the same here.
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 Direwolf Lincoln 27 Jun 18 8.40pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
In France. No real risk of mass slaughter in the absence of colonial wars in N Africa or Indo-China but good for teaching a generation of effete, cosseted Facebook-obssessed ponces about social responsibility. We should do the same here.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 Jun 18 8.49pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
In France. No real risk of mass slaughter in the absence of colonial wars in N Africa or Indo-China but good for teaching a generation of effete, cosseted Facebook-obssessed ponces about social responsibility. We should do the same here. Broadly in favour but with caveats. It has to include everybody, no exemptions for religious grounds / beliefs or university graduates. So it will have to be a program that the various faith groups can sign up to. I would not expect people to go and fight that should be left to our military. It will need a clear purpose, what are you trying to achieve? Discipline, fitness, education, social responsibility? It must also include rewards to incentivise. In Switzerland National Service is popular because it is fun and people make friends. It was embedded in to Swiss culture so if you want a career it is expected that you perform well in your National Service. Do well in you NS and your employer looks favourably upon it in your chosen career. So lots of detail to work out but it could work and once the first lot have gone through it if they enjoyed it and felt it made a difference they will spread the good word. My dad did his NS in the early fifties they taught him to drive and to become an electrician so apart from being shot at in Egypt he enjoyed it.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Jun 18 9.01pm |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
If it gets the woofters off the streets and out of their beds, what's not to like?
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 27 Jun 18 9.26pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Broadly in favour but with caveats. It has to include everybody, no exemptions for religious grounds / beliefs or university graduates. So it will have to be a program that the various faith groups can sign up to. I would not expect people to go and fight that should be left to our military. It will need a clear purpose, what are you trying to achieve? Discipline, fitness, education, social responsibility? It must also include rewards to incentivise. In Switzerland National Service is popular because it is fun and people make friends. It was embedded in to Swiss culture so if you want a career it is expected that you perform well in your National Service. Do well in you NS and your employer looks favourably upon it in your chosen career. So lots of detail to work out but it could work and once the first lot have gone through it if they enjoyed it and felt it made a difference they will spread the good word. My dad did his NS in the early fifties they taught him to drive and to become an electrician so apart from being shot at in Egypt he enjoyed it. They get a cool pen knife out of the experience there as well. Can see the appeal.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 18 9.35pm |
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I'm all for a bit of community service but I'm definitely not in favour of anything involving the military.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 27 Jun 18 9.38pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm all for a bit of community service but I'm definitely not in favour of anything involving the military. Wouldn't be fair on the crims to nick their gig.
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| YT Oxford 27 Jun 18 10.04pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm all for a bit of community service but I'm definitely not in favour of anything involving the military. The Girl Guide Association doesn't allow boys to join.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 27 Jun 18 10.13pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm all for a bit of community service but I'm definitely not in favour of anything involving the military. I was in the Scouts, and it was great for team building experience. No brainwashing whatsoever. However, getting into the Guides proved far trickier!
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| YT Oxford 27 Jun 18 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
I was in the Scouts, and it was great for team building experience. No brainwashing whatsoever. However, getting into the Guides proved far trickier! Me too. I learned far more about real life in the Scouts than I did at school. Teamwork, leadership, conflict resolution, planning and budgeting, presenting and public speaking, resolve, plus a raft of practical skills. Also mixing and getting along with kids from completely different backgrounds.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 18 10.25pm |
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The country is too far gone. The army is even criticised for using harsh language nowadays.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 27 Jun 18 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Me too. I learned far more about real life in the Scouts than I did at school. Teamwork, leadership, conflict resolution, planning and budgeting, presenting and public speaking, resolve, plus a raft of practical skills. Also mixing and getting along with kids from completely different backgrounds. Yeah. All that too. But did you get into the Guides?
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