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 mattteo  27 Jun 18 6.28pm |
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from Borussia Moenchengladbach. German-Italian guy, has just turned 25, was a great winger last seasons with 6 goals and 15 assists in 3300 minutes (that's one every 150 minutes!). Compare that to Andros Townsend, who gave 5 goals and 15 assists in 5900 minutes in a similarly cometitive league (1 in 300 minutes) and for whom several English clubs are willing to pay over 25 million. The quality and bargains available in Germany and other leagues are amazing!
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| Palace 1979 Surrey 27 Jun 18 6.42pm |
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The German league is weaker hence the stats mean little. Look at Burke since he returned to Premier league, has struggled to get in West Brom team when fit. Sure, there will be some bargains, but stats alone mean nothing.
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| mattteo 27 Jun 18 8.27pm |
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Originally posted by Palace 1979
The German league is weaker hence the stats mean little. Look at Burke since he returned to Premier league, has struggled to get in West Brom team when fit. Sure, there will be some bargains, but stats alone mean nothing. Disagree. The last 3 teams in their league: Wolfsburg, Hamburg and Koln >> Swansea, West Brom and Stoke. I don't see any difference in favour of the PL between the leagues and if it then it's infinitesimal.
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| Brinscall Eagle Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 27 Jun 18 8.40pm |
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They just got knocked out of the World Cup ! say no more .
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pssguy  27 Jun 18 8.43pm |
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Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle
They just got knocked out of the World Cup ! say no more . Yeah ... but Ozil
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| Booted Eagle Bristol 27 Jun 18 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Disagree. The last 3 teams in their league: Wolfsburg, Hamburg and Koln >> Swansea, West Brom and Stoke. I don't see any difference in favour of the PL between the leagues and if it then it's infinitesimal. Fair point as I was looking at Dortmund initially. Judging by today there might well be some bargains in Germany. Edited by Booted Eagle (27 Jun 2018 8.49pm)
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| mattteo 27 Jun 18 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle
They just got knocked out of the World Cup ! say no more . Ok....soooo, the league with the national team eliminated by Iceland at the Euros is better why??
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| Mstrobez 27 Jun 18 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Ok....soooo, the league with the national team eliminated by Iceland at the Euros is better why?? It’s just a pride/patriotic thing. The myth about the premier league being this mystical superior land got debunked by honest people a long time ago. But most English will cling onto anything they can to continue it.
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| Nobbybm Dartford 27 Jun 18 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Ok....soooo, the league with the national team eliminated by Iceland at the Euros is better why?? Using your oh so reliable numbers let’s put that into context. England (13) were knocked out by Iceland (22) & Germany (1) knocked out by Korea (57). So clearly being beaten by a team 9 places behind you in the rankings is better than being beaten by one 56 below. If, and it’s a big IF, these German players are that good there’d be scouts & bigger clubs all over them. They would also be more prominent in the national set up which has rocked up at the WC finals with a squad made up mostly of players past their best.
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| lankygit Lincoln 28 Jun 18 11.08am |
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Originally posted by Nobbybm
Using your oh so reliable numbers let’s put that into context. England (13) were knocked out by Iceland (22) & Germany (1) knocked out by Korea (57). So clearly being beaten by a team 9 places behind you in the rankings is better than being beaten by one 56 below. If, and it’s a big IF, these German players are that good there’d be scouts & bigger clubs all over them. They would also be more prominent in the national set up which has rocked up at the WC finals with a squad made up mostly of players past their best. FIFA rankings are a rough guideline at best. Going into this World Cup Switzerland were ranked 6th, ranking them ahead of the likes of France and Spain.
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| Midlands Eagle 28 Jun 18 11.34am |
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Originally posted by Nobbybm
If, and it’s a big IF, these German players are that good there’d be scouts & bigger clubs all over them. They would also be more prominent in the national set up which has rocked up at the WC finals with a squad made up mostly of players past their best. That Leroy Sané must be rubbish then as he didn't even make that poor squad
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 28 Jun 18 11.49am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It’s just a pride/patriotic thing. The myth about the premier league being this mystical superior land got debunked by honest people a long time ago. But most English will cling onto anything they can to continue it. Debunked? How so? Interesting that you think anyone who doesn't share your view isn't being honest. I think the Premier League is certainly the most competitive, which I my mind makes it the best. You can certainly argue that quality is higher elsewhere, but the unpredictability of the PL makes it far better to watch IMO.
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