Not good at all:

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Exactly. The usual suspects complain about police harassment and then in the same breath "we never see the police around here and they don't care". This sort of crime will not be solved solely by policing although a bit of zero tolerance wouldn't go amiss.

To some extant the solution lies in the hand of the "community". This mother blames the police for her son's death. Whilst I understand her grief she is simply wrong. Too many people in the "community" know who the "perps" are but refuse to co-operate with the police and then blame the cops when no one is convicted. I hear so called community leaders and experts blame racism and lack of opportunities for young people. This is not the deep south and these kids have the same chance at education as the rest of us did.

The question we need to ask is why then do many young men from a certain background ignore the opportunities and prefer a life of crime. This however is not a conversation that the "community" wants to have, far better to blame it on someone else. Until then this problem will continue.

One more point

'Tough on crime tough on the causes of crime', labour can justifiably claim this to have been reasonably successful.

Austerity, saving money running the police and other services down is behind this.

Even now, still no response from the government.

No emergency legislation, no restoration of police numbers, no idea what to do.

Better pay for less work.......?

There also needs to be a long hard look taken at how these young people are getting their hands on weapons. I shoot at an accredited rifle range, and believe me you have to go through hoops in the gun shop before they will sell you even an air rifle, let alone all the checks and paperwork if you want a live ammunition one. So how does a 14-15 year old obtain one?

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Getting sick of all this "Its everyone elses fault "

Anyone caught with a weapon...2 years in the army,6 months no parole.
Some perverted Sargent Major,would love to get his hands on the little cnuts...Respect Bro....He will give em some fckin respect.

Gotta be better than prison

what would you say to carry a knife or gun, get involuntary castration ?

It takes the violence and aggression out of dogs. They are less deserving of castration most of the time as they...
1. do not carry weapons
2. have usually no previous history of anti social behaviour
3 are lovable and cuddly.

cut off the goolies ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 May 2018 10.45am)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford