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mattteo Flag 05 Jan 18 3.05am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

How lucky can you be to be West Ham and to have Chelsea come at you wanting to get Andy Carroll and willing to let you have the unwanted striker Batshuayi to convince you to give up on Carroll?

Unless there's something I'm not seeing here and there's a hidden gem quality to Carroll only Conte understands, I think every club would more likely have 24 year old Batshuayi than 29 year old Carroll.

How cool if instead of Carroll they'd have gone for Benteke? Why don't we have that luck? Would you have let Benteke go to Chelsea and get faster, younger, better goalscorer Batshuayi?

Edit: Did this get deleted??

Edited by mattteo (05 Jan 2018 11.30am)

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 05 Jan 18 8.12am

Originally posted by mattteo

How lucky can you be to be West Ham and to have Chelsea come at you wanting to get Andy Carroll and willing to let you have the unwanted striker Batshuayi to convince you to give up on Carroll?

Unless there's something I'm not seeing here and there's a hidden gem quality to Carroll only Conte understands, I think every club would more likely have 24 year old Batshuayi than 29 year old Carroll.

Crazy move isn’t it. I do like Carroll, I think he’s a beast. But a Chelsea player!? Not in a million years. It’s like Liverpool signing Rickie Lambert all over again.

 


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topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 05 Jan 18 12.10pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

When I heard that a Premier League club was in for Carroll, I assumed it would be us.

 


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Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 05 Jan 18 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

With this rumour and the purchase of Ross Barkley, one wonders if Chelsea are having problems meeting their home-grown players quota.

 


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djcpfc Flag Within a 5 minute walk 05 Jan 18 1.12pm Send a Private Message to djcpfc Add djcpfc as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Crazy move isn’t it. I do like Carroll, I think he’s a beast. But a Chelsea player!? Not in a million years. It’s like Liverpool signing Rickie Lambert all over again.

When he has played he has been awesome for West Ham. If he could stay on the pitch for a whole season I think you’d see his real quality. Rickie Lambert was an honest pro, Carroll has a lot more about him.

Hurts me to say this. Can’t stand West Ham.

Could be good for Palace though, every chance Carroll flops at Chelski with injuries etc. and every chance West Ham waste whatever they get for him, he is there talisman when he on the pitch and his contribution is worth 10+ points a season to them. Take him out without putting back quality into their squad and they’d be in trouble.

Let it happen.

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 05 Jan 18 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

If Carroll was fit for long enough he'd be a quality striker...but there's the rub

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 Jan 18 3.07pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

If Carroll was fit for long enough he'd be a quality striker...but there's the rub

Yep. But he isn't, and never likely will be. The idea that he's Chelsea quality is laughable. Batshuayi is a better option (on the basis that he's generally available for all games, rather than maybe 10-15 games a season).

 


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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 05 Jan 18 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

When I heard that a Premier League club was in for Carroll, I assumed it would be us.


To keep Wickham company in the treatment room?

 


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mattteo Flag 05 Jan 18 5.27pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

I've never seen all this quality you guys mention about Carroll. All I've seen is a big, slow moving lump with some decent technique, a good left footed shot and great headers.

Hardly worth the sum that Liverpool paid for him, but he was presented as the English poster boy back then. A big disappointment at Liverpool. Not extraordinary at West Ham either. Him not falling back, pressing or doing defensive responsibilities is a big problem.

Someone mentioned that he is "like a beast". That's far from the player I've seen. Like a beast is Welbeck. Like a beast is Luis Suarez. Like a beast is Ciro Immobile. Like a beast is Vardy.

 

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YT Flag Oxford 05 Jan 18 5.43pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I've never seen all this quality you guys mention about Carroll. All I've seen is a big, slow moving lump with some decent technique, a good left footed shot and great headers.

Hardly worth the sum that Liverpool paid for him, but he was presented as the English poster boy back then. A big disappointment at Liverpool. Not extraordinary at West Ham either. Him not falling back, pressing or doing defensive responsibilities is a big problem.

Someone mentioned that he is "like a beast". That's far from the player I've seen. Like a beast is Welbeck. Like a beast is Luis Suarez. Like a beast is Ciro Immobile. Like a beast is Vardy.

Not the beefiest of beasts.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 06 Jan 18 1.01pm

How is Vardy a beast?

Just sounds like you don't know what beast means

If I was a defender I'd hate to play against Carroll, you either stand up to him and go toe to toe or he will batter you. Vardy would be an easy afternoon, just get your offside trap right and bully him

 


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mattteo Flag 06 Jan 18 4.52pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

How is Vardy a beast?

Just sounds like you don't know what beast means

If I was a defender I'd hate to play against Carroll, you either stand up to him and go toe to toe or he will batter you. Vardy would be an easy afternoon, just get your offside trap right and bully him

Vardy is constantly running, pressing, harassing defenders, fighting with his teeth, even going as far as fouling trying to get to the ball.
That's my definition of beast.
Carroll is just a kitten

 

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