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sitdownstandup Flag 01 Jan 18 6.27pm Send a Private Message to sitdownstandup Add sitdownstandup as a friend

say they have let down future generations.

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Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

Hubert Reeves

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BarEagle Flag Monmouth 01 Jan 18 7.06pm Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

They are right.

I am ashamed of what mine and my forefathers' generation has done to Mother Earth. We are going to leave it in a right mess.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Jan 18 8.19pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

They are right.

I am ashamed of what mine and my forefathers' generation has done to Mother Earth. We are going to leave it in a right mess.

Well sadly our forefathers didn't know and ours has only really just found out!
Why be ashamed.?
We can't do things at a nuclear speed
( pun not meant).
Once evidence is wholly accepted we move forwards.

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 01 Jan 18 8.23pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

They are right.

I am ashamed of what mine and my forefathers' generation has done to Mother Earth. We are going to leave it in a right mess.

Climate change happens. We cannot stop it. We can add to it, or not, but we cannot stop it. There have been more hot periods than ice ages (which we are currently still in).

We may be able to slow it's warming progress, but it will change whatever.

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 01 Jan 18 9.16pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Climate change happens. We cannot stop it. We can add to it, or not, but we cannot stop it. There have been more hot periods than ice ages (which we are currently still in).

We may be able to slow it's warming progress, but it will change whatever.


This is classic denier nonsense. We have massively accelerated a change in the climate and will continue to accelerate it - i.e. it will get worse exponentially - unless we do something to reverse it.

And we can reverse it - and quite quickly - using existing knowledge and technology. It takes only the will to do so. It also takes people like you to stop spreading malicious bulls*** like the above.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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dav43 Flag Carshalton Beeches, Surrey 01 Jan 18 9.32pm Send a Private Message to dav43 Add dav43 as a friend

Correct that climate change does happen naturally, but just to note that climate responds to external forcings. These forcings can be natural, (eg volcanic eruptions, solar cycles or changes in the earth's orbit over tens of thousands of years (the so called Milankovitch cycles) or human (eg greenhouse gases). At present the most critical forcing is the greenhouse induced warming.

We can link the observed warming to greenhouse gases in a climate model by running the model once with fixed CO2 at pre-industrial levels, and once with CO2 tracking observed estimates. We get a match with the observed warming when the CO2 is included, but not without.

If we reduce the stock of carbon in the atmosphere, then temperatures will fall. However this is complicated by lags in the system (eg oceans releasing heat slowly) and whatever the magnitude of carbon sinks are in the future. The underlying climate (without human induced warming) will change naturally (by very small amounts, mind), but we can limit the magnitude of the actual warming through international collaboration to make sure that sinks are greater than sources and the stock of carbon in the atmosphere goes down.

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Climate change happens. We cannot stop it. We can add to it, or not, but we cannot stop it. There have been more hot periods than ice ages (which we are currently still in).

We may be able to slow it's warming progress, but it will change whatever.


 

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dav43 Flag Carshalton Beeches, Surrey 01 Jan 18 9.38pm Send a Private Message to dav43 Add dav43 as a friend

Do you know how annoyed I was the other day when Trump tweeted that we need more global warming because it's cold where he was? For christ's sake the guy doesn't know the difference between weather and climate yet he pulled the US out of Paris. as someone who actually supports many conservative economic policies, his lack of knowledge and inability to consider scientific evidence as a US president is truely horrendous in my opinion.

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


This is classic denier nonsense. We have massively accelerated a change in the climate and will continue to accelerate it - i.e. it will get worse exponentially - unless we do something to reverse it.

And we can reverse it - and quite quickly - using existing knowledge and technology. It takes only the will to do so. It also takes people like you to stop spreading malicious bulls*** like the above.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Jan 18 12.08am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Sue the Chinese as well they are the ones building coal fueled power stations at a rapid rate.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Jan 18 12.54am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Sue the Chinese as well they are the ones building coal fueled power stations at a rapid rate.

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Jan 18 1.17am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

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(As well)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Jan 18 1.46am

Originally posted by Jimenez

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(As well)

Largest population has largest CO2 emissions shocker.
Per capita they're no worse than a lot of countries. In fact isn't it rather anti American for you to point me towards this graph that shows per capita, the good ole US of A are among the worst polluters.

Talk about undo your own argument!

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Jan 18 1.54am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Largest population has largest CO2 emissions shocker.
Per capita they're no worse than a lot of countries. In fact isn't it rather anti American for you to point me towards this graph that shows per capita, the good ole US of A are among the worst polluters.

Talk about undo your own argument!

No one denies that. My point was the Chinese are the worst & even India is moving up the charts as well as your beloved EU.

 


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