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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Nov 17 3.49pm

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Britons were warned they are on course for the longest fall in living standards since records began 60 years ago after the U.K.’s fiscal watchdog took the ax to its outlook for economic growth.

In an analysis of the government’s latest budget and accompanying report by the Office for Budget Responsibility, the Resolution Foundation said on Thursday that the economy is set to be 42 billion pounds ($56 billion) smaller in 2022 than the OBR predicted in March.

It also calculated wages will not return to their pre-financial crisis levels of 2007 until at least 2025 once inflation is taken into account. Average annual pay is now projected to be 1,030 pounds lower in 2022 than the March forecasts and household disposable incomes will fall for an unprecedented 19 straight quarters between 2015 and 2020, according to Resolution.

The analysis was reinforced by the Institute for Fiscal Studies, which said the OBR’s forecasts implied average earnings would be almost 1,400 pounds lower in 2021 than predicted before the 2016 Brexit referendum and still below their 2008 level.

“We are in danger of losing not just one but getting on for two decades of earnings growth,” IFS Director Paul Johnson told a briefing in London on Thursday.

Not sure if this factors Brexit in or not.

Well done everybody who voted Tory. Thanks.

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 23 Nov 17 3.57pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Fan bluuddy tastic.

 

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Jacey Flag 23 Nov 17 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Britons were warned they are on course for the longest fall in living standards since records began 60 years ago after the U.K.’s fiscal watchdog took the ax to its outlook for economic growth.

In an analysis of the government’s latest budget and accompanying report by the Office for Budget Responsibility, the Resolution Foundation said on Thursday that the economy is set to be 42 billion pounds ( billion) smaller in 2022 than the OBR predicted in March.

It also calculated wages will not return to their pre-financial crisis levels of 2007 until at least 2025 once inflation is taken into account. Average annual pay is now projected to be 1,030 pounds lower in 2022 than the March forecasts and household disposable incomes will fall for an unprecedented 19 straight quarters between 2015 and 2020, according to Resolution.

The analysis was reinforced by the Institute for Fiscal Studies, which said the OBR’s forecasts implied average earnings would be almost 1,400 pounds lower in 2021 than predicted before the 2016 Brexit referendum and still below their 2008 level.

“We are in danger of losing not just one but getting on for two decades of earnings growth,” IFS Director Paul Johnson told a briefing in London on Thursday.

Not sure if this factors Brexit in or not.

Well done everybody who voted Tory. Thanks.

Interesting debate.
Our fall from the best performing economy in G7 to the bottom of the pile can no doubt be attributed to our voting to leave the EU,where we face un unprecedented consequences.

 

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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 23 Nov 17 4.11pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Impacts of Tory budgets since 2015 by income decile.

Helping those just about managing top 20%. The poorest 20% don't need the money, so it's right the Tories are making them considerably worse off, while making the richest better off. I bet every single person in the bottom 2 deciles would just have spent that £1,200 a year on fags and booze so it's doing them a favour really.

Also railcards for young people will help them no end. Especially as you can't use in rush hour to get to or from work. Given the housing crisis and cost of living crisis this will be exactly what people under 30 need to help afford a deposit on a house and put money into a private pension and pay the £57k debt they have from their education.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Nov 17 4.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Roll up, roll up for more Tory bashing.

I'm sure Tiny Tim would weep if he could see how we suffer in 2017.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 23 Nov 17 4.24pm

What has political parties got to do with it?

So if people voted Lab or lib we'd all be loaded and life would be brilliant? Yeah right....

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Nov 17 4.28pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I think the important thing to realise with all the austerity (and there are more years in the pipeline it is not finished) is that all this pain is completely for nothing.

 

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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 23 Nov 17 4.32pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I think the important thing to realise with all the austerity (and there are more years in the pipeline it is not finished) is that all this pain is completely for nothing.

Scare talk about debt and deficits is often used as a cover for a very different agenda, namely an attempt to reduce the overall size of government and especially spending on social insurance. This has been transparently obvious in the United States, where many supposed deficit-reduction plans just happen to include sharp cuts in tax rates on corporations and the wealthy even as they take away healthcare and nutritional aid for the poor. But it’s also a fairly obvious motivation in the UK, if not so crudely expressed. The “primary purpose” of austerity, the Telegraph admitted in 2013, “is to shrink the size of government spending” – or, as Cameron put it in a speech later that year, to make the state “leaner ... not just now, but permanently”.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Nov 17 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I think the important thing to realise with all the austerity (and there are more years in the pipeline it is not finished) is that all this pain is completely for nothing.

I'm not in pain Steeleye.

I'm sure some people's idea of pain is when they have their houing benefit cut.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Nov 2017 4.34pm)

 

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tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 23 Nov 17 4.34pm Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I think the important thing to realise with all the austerity (and there are more years in the pipeline it is not finished) is that all this pain is completely for nothing.

Plus Brexit. I still haven't heard how we are suppoed to afford the £40bn divorce bill or the 8,000 civil servants we are apparently going to need to sort out the legislative mess in the time of austerity.

What was that about the money tree?

 


A one and a two...

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rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 23 Nov 17 4.44pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Don't believe that overall would be any different whichever party in power.

As for the Brexit effect. Most people did,or should have realised, that there would be a price to pay for exiting the EU. This undoubtable having some small effect.

However main reason is that we, as a nation, have been living beyond our means for decades.

We could, as suggested by some politicians, borrow more to enable even greater expenditure but surely that would just make the problem even worse in the future.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 23 Nov 17 4.56pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

I think the important thing to realise with all the austerity (and there are more years in the pipeline it is not finished) is that all this pain is completely for nothing.


totally, its a race to the bottom !

 

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