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  Hrolf The Ganger  07 Aug 17 6.19pm |
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| .TUX. 07 Aug 17 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
100% agreed.
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| wordup 07 Aug 17 6.28pm |
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America is certainly a country of contrasts and extremes when it comes to the workplace and society. You have progressives shouting down a man who clearly at least has a point - in my view this type of job does tend to appeal more to men. Then on the other hand, you have a president gunning to kick out patriots serving their country because he decides out of nowhere that they're now unable to do a job they've been doing fine for years.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Aug 17 6.34pm |
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Silicon Valley is like a 'progressive hub'. Expressing common sense views like that memo is like insulting their make believe religion. Anyone right of Bernie Sanders is like an apostate. There's a reason the memo's anonymous.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 07 Aug 17 9.06pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Silicon Valley is like a 'progressive hub'. Expressing common sense views like that memo is like insulting their make believe religion. Anyone right of Bernie Sanders is like an apostate. There's a reason the memo's anonymous. This is the kind of quasi religious blinkered progressivism that encouraged the Brexit result.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 3.12am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is the kind of quasi religious blinkered progressivism that encouraged the Brexit result. The guy who wrote the memo which had evidence backed contentions behind it. The response from Google was just your typical....'this doesn't reflect our values' non evidence, 'feelings' inspired nonsense. There is literally people in jobs that exist only to push an agenda that has zero connection to the realities of male/female behaviour or cultural choices of different groups. It highlights a particular criticism I have of 'progressivism' that it doesn't recognise human nature enough. It's prepared to demonise quite rational behaviour if it differs from what it wants the world to be....basically idealism over reality....it doesn't actually help people much. I see no problem with encouragement with...say wishing for greater female numbers in tech jobs but what a company like Google do goes far beyond that.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 8.54am |
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Google fires diversity memo author. Google are a disgrace.
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| davenotamonkey 08 Aug 17 9.04am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Silicon Valley is like a 'progressive hub'. Expressing common sense views like that memo is like insulting their make believe religion. Anyone right of Bernie Sanders is like an apostate. There's a reason the memo's anonymous. Academia is worse, believe me. I don't doubt universities operate blacklists in exactly the same way as has been described within Google. Edited by davenotamonkey (08 Aug 2017 9.07am)
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| davenotamonkey 08 Aug 17 9.05am |
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...and this is why I remain anonymous.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 9.17am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Academia is worse, believe me. I don't doubt universities operate blacklists in exactly the same way as has been described within Google. Edited by davenotamonkey (08 Aug 2017 9.07am) Having worked in secondary schools if you aren't left wing you basically learn to keep your mouth shut. It's not good....institutions ideally shouldn't be dominated by a particular political bias....but they are.
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| Mapletree Croydon 08 Aug 17 9.21am |
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It is no surprise who the OP is here, a man on a mission. The HOL response is surprising. It's a free market so the guy should have joined another company if he doesn't like the Google ethos. From what little I have read the memo is dodgy pseudo science. He or she hasn't read their John Stuart Mill. Attacking the company goes against his (or her) contract and naturally led to the sack. End of.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 9.41am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It is no surprise who the OP is here, a man on a mission. The HOL response is surprising. It's a free market so the guy should have joined another company if he doesn't like the Google ethos. From what little I have read the memo is dodgy pseudo science. He or she hasn't read their John Stuart Mill. Attacking the company goes against his (or her) contract and naturally led to the sack. End of. No, sorry, that isn't on in my view. Please tell me the non progressive silicon valley company that this guy could be employed at? When the market you have skills in it pretty much political at one end I'm afraid that's not much of a choice. Maybe you should read the memo as it was backed up by statistics from what I've read. Please, I'm eager to know what you consider 'dodgy pseudo science' from it? I'm eager to know that. The person who wrote it considers themselves a classic liberal and the memo reads very mild to me. He even recommends actual approaches which he feels would more effectively increase female participation in the profession. If this was an attack, it's a very mild one....The response has been aggressive.....It seems to me that even speaking reality gets you fired. I suspect the person knew the risk they were taking....hence the anonymity....But that didn't save him it appears. Google are a disgrace. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 10.19am)
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