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Direwolf Flag Lincoln 03 Aug 17 8.43pm Send a Private Message to Direwolf Add Direwolf as a friend

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Given how Wilf is often treated by referees is anyone else worried that he will end up suspended this season for supposed simulation?

 

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Brinscall Eagle Flag Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 03 Aug 17 8.51pm

If he cheats he will be suspended. Nothing more to say.

 

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Part Time James Flag 03 Aug 17 9.46pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

I think Direwolf is implying Wilf is incorrectly perceived to be a cheat by inept refereeing....

I think a lot of the time that's true. There is a difference between diving and letting the ref know you were fouled.

 




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Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 03 Aug 17 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

I think Direwolf is implying Wilf is incorrectly perceived to be a cheat by inept refereeing....

I think a lot of the time that's true. There is a difference between diving and letting the ref know you were fouled.

It has to be a unanimous decision based on video replay. My guess is it will only get used a half dozen times a year, and only for Snodgrass like simulation.

 

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Kingvagabond Flag London 04 Aug 17 9.29am Send a Private Message to Kingvagabond Add Kingvagabond as a friend

Hopefully if anything it might show how often Wilf is unfairly treated. Wish diving became something that you could rescind a card for.

 


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peterg Flag Anerley 04 Aug 17 10.35am Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

The great w*anker Mark Cl*ttenfu*ck said that simulation was very hard to detect. What he should have said was that it was very hard for refs to decide whether or not a player has simulated.

MC did of course notoriously book Wilf for diving in the Watford match, when to everyone else (apart possibly from W*llo) it was clearly a pen. With his quote, the up-himself MC was posing as the great simulation detective. A ref with more humility would acknowledge that this a very difficult call which refs can get wrong.

The video review system should obviously allow players who are called wrongly (like Wilf) to appeal against the ref's decision. In the Watford match, of course, this would have been too late to bring the correct result, which would have been a Palace victory - and spared us much of the late-season agony.

 


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paperhat Flag croydon 04 Aug 17 10.36am Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

I think Direwolf is implying Wilf is incorrectly perceived to be a cheat by inept refereeing....

I think a lot of the time that's true. There is a difference between diving and letting the ref know you were fouled.

as above, but ultimately to answer the poster , yes he will get banned at some point, almost definitely

 


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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 04 Aug 17 10.49am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

The problem is that he's almost universally regarded as doing more diving than Tom Daley, especially by the south coast mummy's boys. Remember what happened with the penalties that Andy Johnson was winning until Wenger decided to get involved. Don't be surprised to hear something similar from Hughton this season, especially if we give them a thrashing or two.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Aug 17 10.57am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by peterg

The great w*anker Mark Cl*ttenfu*ck said that simulation was very hard to detect. What he should have said was that it was very hard for refs to decide whether or not a player has simulated.

MC did of course notoriously book Wilf for diving in the Watford match, when to everyone else (apart possibly from W*llo) it was clearly a pen. With his quote, the up-himself MC was posing as the great simulation detective. A ref with more humility would acknowledge that this a very difficult call which refs can get wrong.

The video review system should obviously allow players who are called wrongly (like Wilf) to appeal against the ref's decision. In the Watford match, of course, this would have been too late to bring the correct result, which would have been a Palace victory - and spared us much of the late-season agony.

Ignoring the reprehensible slurs, Mark is 100% correct and other referees around the globe would express similar sentiments. Supporters are all brilliant referees when they see umpteen replays of an incident using "Slow-mo" etc etc.Referees should not be pilloried - "Fire" should be turned on players who week in and week out try to con referees.

 

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alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 04 Aug 17 11.24am Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

The problem is that he's almost universally regarded as doing more diving than Tom Daley, especially by the south coast mummy's boys. Remember what happened with the penalties that Andy Johnson was winning until Wenger decided to get involved. Don't be surprised to hear something similar from Hughton this season, especially if we give them a thrashing or two.

It was Steve Bruce Dave who said Andrew went down easily after Two penalties against Birmingham.
When Andrew went to Everton they sent a video to the FA complaining about the lack of penalties he was getting for fouls.
Andrew told me he only ever dived once against Norwich at Selhurst.

 


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deflemonkid Flag 04 Aug 17 12.11pm Send a Private Message to deflemonkid Add deflemonkid as a friend

Originally posted by Direwolf

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Given how Wilf is often treated by referees is anyone else worried that he will end up suspended this season for supposed simulation?

The new rule is a retrospective ban after the match so the ref on the day has nothing to do with this new rule.
The panel will review footage of suspected simulation and judge accordingly. They'll have the full advantage of all the slow motion replays so hopefully the like of snodgrass will be getting the bans this season.

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 04 Aug 17 12.15pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

It was Steve Bruce Dave who said Andrew went down easily after Two penalties against Birmingham.
When Andrew went to Everton they sent a video to the FA complaining about the lack of penalties he was getting for fouls.
Andrew told me he only ever dived once against Norwich at Selhurst.

Fair enough, but the point remains unchanged.

 


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