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hedgehog50  Croydon 03 Aug 17 6.12pm |
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Venezuela: "inspiration to all of us fighting back against austerity and non-liberal economics in Europe" (Corbyn); Venezuela has demonstrated it's no longer necessary to accept a failed economic model" (Milne); Europe might want to learn the obvious lessons from Venezuela" (McCluskey); "Venezuela showed another way of doing politics" (Abbott); "Venezuela is conquering poverty by rejecting neo-liberal policies" (Corbyn). Inflation at 800%, blackouts, shortages, deaths from hunger, violence on the streets, freedoms curtailed.
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 Helmet46 Croydon 03 Aug 17 6.44pm |
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Yeah but we'd do it properly.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 03 Aug 17 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by Helmet46
Yeah but we'd do it properly. No, you would try the same socialist economics which have been seen to fail time and time again.
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| MrCParrot Taunton 03 Aug 17 7.15pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Venezuela: "inspiration to all of us fighting back against austerity and non-liberal economics in Europe" (Corbyn); Venezuela has demonstrated it's no longer necessary to accept a failed economic model" (Milne); Europe might want to learn the obvious lessons from Venezuela" (McCluskey); "Venezuela showed another way of doing politics" (Abbott); "Venezuela is conquering poverty by rejecting neo-liberal policies" (Corbyn). Inflation at 800%, blackouts, shortages, deaths from hunger, violence on the streets, freedoms curtailed. it would be funny if it weren't so tragic Parrot
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| legaleagle 03 Aug 17 8.26pm |
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Its gone pretty "quite" on the right,hasn't it? 1.Putin...he certainly has shown "another way of doing politics" and f..ing up a country in the process 2.Saudi Arabia....dictatorship only being criticised by certain posters if they are of the left 3.Belarus.....Evil dictator for years...never enters the minds of certain posters on here 4. Poland/Hungary.Dodgy right wing nationalist regimes.. 5.Turkey.Good top see Trump cosying up recently to the authoritarian right wing nationalist leader of the land which jails more journalists than any other (or nearly any other). Lovely Jubbly
Edited by legaleagle (03 Aug 2017 8.30pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 03 Aug 17 8.30pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Its gone pretty "quite" on the right,hasn't it? 1.Putin...he certainly has shown "another way of doing politics" and f..ing up a country in the process 2.Saudi Arabia....dictatorship only being criticised by certain posters if they are of the left 3.Belarus.....Evil dictator for years...never enters the minds of certain posters on here 4. Poland/Hungary.Dodgy right wing nationalist regimes..
But according to Jeremy and his friends, Venezuela is the model we should follow. Chuckle.
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| legaleagle 03 Aug 17 8.36pm |
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Which is no response to my point,Judge. Chavez did some very good things IMHO.The successor regime has descended into something I cannot support.I am sure CIA-sponsored destabilisation (just see 20th century L American history)has nothing to do with it. I have no problem saying what is going on in Venezuela by the Government (and others) now is well dodgy.In contrast,you guys give the appearance of completely overlooking similar concerns relating to authoritarian regimes on the right... Labour’s shadow foreign secretary has said Venezuela’s government has a duty to answer concerns about Nicolás Maduro’s “increasingly authoritarian rule”. Bet you didn't blink when Maggie praised that infinitely worse dictator Allende
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| chris123 hove actually 03 Aug 17 8.43pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Which is no response to my point,Judge. Chavez did some very good things IMHO.The successor regime has descended into something I cannot support.I am sure CIA-sponsored destabilisation (just see 20th century L American history)has nothing to do with it. I have no problem saying what is going on in Venezuela by the Government (and others) now is well dodgy.In contrast,you guys give the appearance of completely overlooking similar concerns relating to authoritarian regimes on the right... Labour’s shadow foreign secretary has said Venezuela’s government has a duty to answer concerns about Nicolás Maduro’s “increasingly authoritarian rule”. Bet you didn't blink when Maggie praised that infinitely worse dictator Allende Chile has been a genuine democracy for 27 years and properly reformed its economy - unlike Venezuela.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Aug 17 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But according to Jeremy and his friends, Venezuela is the model we should follow. Chuckle. Labour statement. The way you talk is as if Corbyn is applauding what's happening now. Edited by nickgusset (03 Aug 2017 9.52pm)
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Attachment: glazedallover  Allier 03 Aug 17 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Which is no response to my point,Judge. Chavez did some very good things IMHO.The successor regime has descended into something I cannot support.I am sure CIA-sponsored destabilisation (just see 20th century L American history)has nothing to do with it. I have no problem saying what is going on in Venezuela by the Government (and others) now is well dodgy.In contrast,you guys give the appearance of completely overlooking similar concerns relating to authoritarian regimes on the right... Labour’s shadow foreign secretary has said Venezuela’s government has a duty to answer concerns about Nicolás Maduro’s “increasingly authoritarian rule”. Bet you didn't blink when Maggie praised that infinitely worse dictator Allende Thatcher praise for Allende ? He was a marxist who committed suicide in 1973. I think you might mean Pinochet but Never mind.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 03 Aug 17 10.29pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Which is no response to my point,Judge. Chavez did some very good things IMHO.The successor regime has descended into something I cannot support.I am sure CIA-sponsored destabilisation (just see 20th century L American history)has nothing to do with it. I have no problem saying what is going on in Venezuela by the Government (and others) now is well dodgy.In contrast,you guys give the appearance of completely overlooking similar concerns relating to authoritarian regimes on the right... Labour’s shadow foreign secretary has said Venezuela’s government has a duty to answer concerns about Nicolás Maduro’s “increasingly authoritarian rule”. Bet you didn't blink when Maggie praised that infinitely worse dictator Allende Oh, nice bit of swerve, a 'history lesson' and some whataboutery.
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| legaleagle 03 Aug 17 10.34pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Chile has been a genuine democracy for 27 years and properly reformed its economy - unlike Venezuela. Which has zero to do with my point about Pinochet and dictators though...
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