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Uphill Flag Bedford 02 May 17 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

A breath of fresh air from Jamesey on the Burnley game: (quote)
Can I end this report by climbing on my soapbox and saying how boring the continual refereeing persecution complex has become.

Clever teams win matches despite officialdom decisions and it is up to canny players to overcome hurdles by avoiding fouls not look for them and expect free kicks and penalties.

Burnley didn’t win the game because of the refereeing. They won because they were far the better team on the day.

After the continual whinging, moaning and blame seemingly about EVERY referee when we lose a game this is saying it how it is and not 'what might have been if the ref. had done his job'

As the much maligned Willo continues to point out, referees are only human, have no benefit of video analysis, and react as they see it. To keep going on about 'anti Palace bias' and favouring the big teams
not to mention bribery and corruption is pathetic.

We have had the benefit of incorrect decisions over the season and proportionately more against us but that is the nature of refereeing. I urge anyone who hasn't actually done the job to give it a go and then, just maybe, they will understand how b----y difficult it is.

And don't get me started on the persecution of Hennessey! Refereeing and goalkeeping - sitting ducks for abuse.

Carry on Jamesey and Willo - two voices of common sense on the HOL.

 

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chateauferret Flag 02 May 17 3.03pm

I point out serious referee errors wherever I see them, regardless of our performance or the result. Four red card offences not properly dealt with in three games is just not good enough, and we've got a player out injured (Tomkins) as a result of one of them and Wilf could've had a broken arm when he got thrown into the hoarding against Spurs. So this is not trivial or "just one of those things".

At no point did I blame the result of Saturday's match on the officials. I merely pointed out that they had made a very serious error, and you can't deny that it changed the course of that game, even though we may still have lost it.

It isn't good enough and I'm not going to apologise for saying so.

 


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bicycle repair man 02 May 17 3.04pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

In my opinion Jamesey and Willo are a couple of tedious glass half empty merchants who won't be happy until Palace are back playing in the Third Division South.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 02 May 17 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

In my opinion Jamesey and Willo are a couple of tedious glass half empty merchants who won't be happy until Palace are back playing in the Third Division South.

Jamesey is one of the most down to earth, realistic posters on the HOL.

 


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chateauferret Flag 02 May 17 3.16pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Jamesey is one of the most down to earth, realistic posters on the HOL.

Correct. But I don't agree with him on this. No matter what you think about the outcomes of matches, the safety of our players is at stake.

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 02 May 17 3.21pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Correct. But I don't agree with him on this. No matter what you think about the outcomes of matches, the safety of our players is at stake.

I think you're getting carried away now.

 


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Bangell Flag Oxford 02 May 17 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Burnley didn’t win the game because of the refereeing. They won because they were far the better team on the day.

This is correct - we were outclassed by a much less fatigued Burnley side all game. But if their keeper had been rightly sent off, the entire complexion of the game would have changed - and the complete lack of protection for Wilf throughout the game meant that one of our main attacking threats was nullified.

And consider the Spurs game - did Spurs outclass us on the day? They certainly did not, and had Wanyama been sent off as he should have been, we could have capitalised on our first-half dominance.

The attacks on referees lately might seem hyperbolic, but we've seen two absolutely shambolic refereeing displays in a row, and plenty of us were left seething.

 

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Part Time James Flag 02 May 17 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Palace were tired, Burnley played well (especially in defence I thought), the match officials were dire. On balance Burnley deserved the win, we didn't, but that doesn't mean the officials didn't deserve a berating from the fans.

 




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Uphill Flag Bedford 02 May 17 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

In my opinion Jamesey and Willo are a couple of tedious glass half empty merchants who won't be happy until Palace are back playing in the Third Division South.

Add me to the list but we try not to be tedious and as I remember the Third Division South (first game 1949) only too well I think I can say for the three of us we will be most unhappy, not to say devastated, if we don't maintain our PL status

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 02 May 17 3.53pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

I'm not sure if the standard of refereeing has got worse over the years or if the multiple angles TV cameras can cover just brings errors (or misjudgements or whatever you want to call them) into sharper relief. What I'm certain of, however, is that questionable refereeing decisions take place every week across loads of matches. You'd think that, reading through these pages, Palace are unique in being on the receiving end of "odd" refereeing. We're not. Just a cursory look at other fans' forums will tell you this. This victim mentality and persecution complex is, frankly, embarrassing.

I'm not siding with Willo here, by the way. I do genuinely believe that Clattenburg believes that he's at the centre of things, is worryingly egocentric for a referee and is/was overanxious to "make a name for himself" but I also believe that insufficient use is made of technology to umpire important things like penalty calls etc.

Bottom line is, it's utterly futile (and increasingly boring) to go on and on and on and on, ad infinitum and ad nauseam about something that we, as fans, have absolutely no power to change. And in that, Jamesey is totally bang on the money.

 


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Petereagle Flag Brockley 02 May 17 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Jamesey is one of the most down to earth, realistic posters on the HOL.

Willo is very passionate about Palace, and has endured more stick than anyone else on HOL, and still has the guts to stick his neck out and give his opinion. Go Willo!

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 May 17 4.09pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Petereagle

Willo is very passionate about Palace, and has endured more stick than anyone else on HOL, and still has the guts to stick his neck out and give his opinion. Go Willo!

As giraffes say "You don't get leaves unless you stick your neck out"

 

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