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dreamwaverider Flag London 31 Dec 16 8.35am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Football has become money driven. The majority of premier league players are foreigners. Of the rest, a large proportion are first generation immigrants who have no loyalty to this place and I don't blame them. The issue of Zaha and Ivory Coast is a classic example.
The vast majority of the professional sportsmen follow the money. That's why there are currently so many here.
China are now offering the stars FIVE toTEN times what they get here, and England is one of the best payers thanks to Sky.
So Tevez. Is now almost the best paid footballer in the world at £350,000/ week. Renaldo has been offered £800,000/ week.
So what will Zaha do on £35K /week when they offer him £150K?
He has just shown he has no loyalty to England Whatsoever.
The premier is on the edge of big change. If we want to compete we will have to pay £500/ month Sky subscription and £ 300 per game to watch.
No, the future is China. They are well ahead of the game. They have just introduced video technology. Within 3 years most of the top players will be there. Look at the recent history of moneybal and you may understand this.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 31 Dec 16 9.01am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

So what will Zaha do on £35K /week when they offer him £150K?
He has just shown he has no loyalty to England Whatsoever.

Zaha was homesick in Manchester so what would be like living in China and the comment about having no loyalty to England is rubbish as he waited long enough to be picked and wasn't. It's all well and good for the England managers telling him that he is in their thoughts but talk is cheap and the land of his birth showed him that if England didn't want him - they did

 

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snytaxx Flag London 31 Dec 16 9.35am Send a Private Message to snytaxx Add snytaxx as a friend

I wouldn't worry too much about this if I were you.

While this country (China) definitely has huge footballing potential, it's domestic league is in no fit state to truly attract big football players in it's current format.

Go to any Chinese football match and you soon realise the whole thing is just for consumer entertainment, it has nothing to do with good old fashioned 'rule of law' football. We might complain about the ref at Palace but in China, it's an open secret that the ref is paid by the league to create 'entertaining matches'.

So yes, while a few footballers might well be tempted out here due to the wages, it will be a temporary fad and only just that. Just like how the American leagues are / were, you wait until you are old and not good enough to make the first team in your premier league outfit anymore, then you take a ten fold pay increase and move to China for a year, play some of the best / worst football of your career then take your money and retire. Good for them I say!

These concerns about how money affects the game have always existed (since the game took off commercially), the only thing that has changed are the players involved (the destination leagues). Once it was the USA, today it's China, tomorrow, who knows?

 

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xomnea Flag 31 Dec 16 9.50am Send a Private Message to xomnea Add xomnea as a friend

[Link]

Sky to show Chinese Super League for the next three seasons.

 

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chateauferret Flag 31 Dec 16 11.14am

Originally posted by snytaxx

I wouldn't worry too much about this if I were you.

While this country (China) definitely has huge footballing potential, it's domestic league is in no fit state to truly attract big football players in it's current format.

Go to any Chinese football match and you soon realise the whole thing is just for consumer entertainment, it has nothing to do with good old fashioned 'rule of law' football. We might complain about the ref at Palace but in China, it's an open secret that the ref is paid by the league to create 'entertaining matches'.

Which of course is why they want "Mark". Nothing to do with a track record in impartiality, fairness or judgement. Bent as a nine-bob bit and good at politics.

 


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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 31 Dec 16 5.16pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by snytaxx

I wouldn't worry too much about this if I were you.

While this country (China) definitely has huge footballing potential, it's domestic league is in no fit state to truly attract big football players in it's current format.

Go to any Chinese football match and you soon realise the whole thing is just for consumer entertainment, it has nothing to do with good old fashioned 'rule of law' football. We might complain about the ref at Palace but in China, it's an open secret that the ref is paid by the league to create 'entertaining matches'.

So yes, while a few footballers might well be tempted out here due to the wages, it will be a temporary fad and only just that. Just like how the American leagues are / were, you wait until you are old and not good enough to make the first team in your premier league outfit anymore, then you take a ten fold pay increase and move to China for a year, play some of the best / worst football of your career then take your money and retire. Good for them I say!

These concerns about how money affects the game have always existed (since the game took off commercially), the only thing that has changed are the players involved (the destination leagues). Once it was the USA, today it's China, tomorrow, who knows?

Great comments, sums it all up perfectly, particularly the failed attempt/s in US.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Jan 17 2.14am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Football is too expensive for the working man in China. Last Palace match I watch in Hong Kong, China a G and T was seven quid.

 


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snytaxx Flag London 02 Jan 17 8.18am Send a Private Message to snytaxx Add snytaxx as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Football is too expensive for the working man in China. Last Palace match I watch in Hong Kong, China a G and T was seven quid.

It's a 100 rmb (£12) for me to go and watch my local team (Beijing Guo An), I mean, it's alot cheaper than watching the Palace but then I guess it depends on what you mean by 'the working man'.

In the UK a working man could be a plumber earning over 40K a year, here it could be taxi driver earning barely earning 15K a year. It's just income really, nothing to do with the overall price of the ticket.

On a random cringe related tangent. The last time I went to a Chinese football match (Beijing Guo An vs Gui Zhou Ren He), the home fans were so disgusted that they were only winning 2-0 (60 minutes played),coupled with the likelihood some have probably watched way to many 'old firm' matches, they decided to start a 'riot'.

By 'riot' I mean it was a fat guy who got so angry when the away team were given a corner, he and his identical T-shirt wearing friends ran down to try and storm the pitch, only to be very easily repulsed by literally one guard. One of them then waddled back up the steps to where his popcorn and cinema sized bucket of cola was situated while the others recreated that fight scene from Team America (the one where both the puppets just kinda shuffle up again each other without really fighting). Freshly have returned to his seat, angry fat man then hurled all of his overpriced foot and drinks at the opposition player (lining up to take the corner). Sadly he missed and hit one of his own players warming up on the touchline who I might add, was not expecting a litre of coke to come flying out of the stands. Said fan then disappeared for 10 minutes back into the stadium concourse while he went and bought another bucket of coca cola and possibly a hot dog.

Oh China...

Edited by snytaxx (02 Jan 2017 8.19am)

 

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chateauferret Flag 02 Jan 17 9.53am

Originally posted by snytaxx

On a random cringe related tangent. The last time I went to a Chinese football match (Beijing Guo An vs Gui Zhou Ren He), the home fans were so disgusted that they were only winning 2-0 (60 minutes played),coupled with the likelihood some have probably watched way to many 'old firm' matches, they decided to start a 'riot'.

By 'riot' I mean it was a fat guy who got so angry when the away team were given a corner, he and his identical T-shirt wearing friends ran down to try and storm the pitch, only to be very easily repulsed by literally one guard. One of them then waddled back up the steps to where his popcorn and cinema sized bucket of cola was situated while the others recreated that fight scene from Team America (the one where both the puppets just kinda shuffle up again each other without really fighting). Freshly have returned to his seat, angry fat man then hurled all of his overpriced foot and drinks at the opposition player (lining up to take the corner). Sadly he missed and hit one of his own players warming up on the touchline who I might add, was not expecting a litre of coke to come flying out of the stands. Said fan then disappeared for 10 minutes back into the stadium concourse while he went and bought another bucket of coca cola and possibly a hot dog.

You sure you weren't at The Valley watching Clowntown?

 


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dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Jan 17 1.33am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

After hearing about interst in Benteke made me realise just hoe pertinent China could be this year. I can see a lot of the Mercia Aru footballers jumping ship.
As foreigners here, who came purely for the money, who wouldn't go.?
Benteke Wil earn £ 10M virtually tax free over there.
Whatever you may think snytaxx I reckon hundreds of players will be on the move this year.

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Jan 17 1.37am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Mercia Aru = mercinary.
Could be a real cash cow for teams like us. Wouldn't be hard to raise £100M and then we really would have a fresh start.

 

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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 04 Jan 17 2.05am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Football has become money driven. The majority of premier league players are foreigners. Of the rest, a large proportion are first generation immigrants who have no loyalty to this place and I don't blame them. The issue of Zaha and Ivory Coast is a classic example.
The vast majority of the professional sportsmen follow the money. That's why there are currently so many here.
China are now offering the stars FIVE toTEN times what they get here, and England is one of the best payers thanks to Sky.
So Tevez. Is now almost the best paid footballer in the world at £350,000/ week. Renaldo has been offered £800,000/ week.
So what will Zaha do on £35K /week when they offer him £150K?
He has just shown he has no loyalty to England Whatsoever.
The premier is on the edge of big change. If we want to compete we will have to pay £500/ month Sky subscription and £ 300 per game to watch.
No, the future is China. They are well ahead of the game. They have just introduced video technology. Within 3 years most of the top players will be there. Look at the recent history of moneybal and you may understand this.

I wouldn't worry, not many footballers want to relocate to china for a couple of years

 


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