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Kermit8 Hevon 20 Feb 16 2.44pm | |
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Voting: In 3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too. That's enough to sway me.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 20 Feb 16 3.12pm | |
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Voting: out Zero wage rises That’s enough to sway me.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 20 Feb 16 3.20pm | |
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I will definitely be voting for us to regain our sovereignty. Unfortunately the odds currently suggest that there is a 75% chance we will stay.
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Kermit8 Hevon 20 Feb 16 3.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Voting: out Zero wage rises That’s enough to sway me. The financial crisis and lack of building by successive governments is responsible for the first two and the next two are down to the politicians here too not the EU. The last two fair enough. You have a point but it is mostly the South-East and a some northern cities where it is truly felt and not for the majority.
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Kermit8 Hevon 20 Feb 16 3.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
I will definitely be voting for us to regain our sovereignty. Unfortunately the odds currently suggest that there is a 75% chance we will stay.
The EU isn't so bad. It has given us some great things over the decades and has a positive impact for many millions here in the UK today. If it truly was that awful as some have convinced themselves it is 75% would be voting 'Out'.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 20 Feb 16 3.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The EU isn't so bad. It has given us some great things over the decades and has a positive impact for many millions here in the UK today. If it truly was that awful as some have convinced themselves it is 75% would be voting 'Out'. Both sides have strong arguments and I daresay in the coming months we'll hear them both to death. Personally I feel that the country has long been in a gradual state of decay and that a lack of control over our own affairs is a big part of that. Additionally the arrogance of the EU irritates me and I don't see why we should continue to put so much into a club where we are despised by most of the other members.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 20 Feb 16 3.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
I will definitely be voting for us to regain our sovereignty. Unfortunately the odds currently suggest that there is a 75% chance we will stay.
One things is for sure - it’s the leave vote which is gaining momentum. I think this could be down to the wire. If the leave side really put on campaign and people start to believe that this could happen I think they could win. There are a lot of fed up people out there.
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Harry Beever Newbury 20 Feb 16 3.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Voting: In 3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too. That's enough to sway me. Kermit is all european trade going to cease and are those 3 million jobs going to be lost and 200,000 businesses go bust if we leave? Just suspicious that these statistics are spewed out by pro-european scare mongerers. I was in and the more I read the less sure I am. What started off as a trade agreement has evolved beyond recognition. Seems the big businesses are desperate to stay in but they don't really give much of a s*** about the man on the street. It surely can't just be a financial argument. I have a relatively poor understanding of the complexity of the argument and am probably in good company. The fog of spin makes it difficult to understand. The media seem to be very busy heralding the success of Cameron's negotiations without pointing out the failures. Is it true that despite all the negotiations the EU can turn around after the referendum and veto what has been agreed
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matt_himself Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Voting: In 3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too. That's enough to sway me. I am curious to why you believe 'big business' on Europe but not on other matters. Please could you explain your thinking and the statistics you provide?
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matt_himself Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The EU isn't so bad. It has given us some great things over the decades and has a positive impact for many millions here in the UK today. If it truly was that awful as some have convinced themselves it is 75% would be voting 'Out'. Simple fact appears to be that Kermit believes it better not to be labelled a 'racist' rather than do something that is in the nation's interest. Hence, in his mind, anyone who votes 'out' is a racist and he is better, well, just because.
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matt_himself Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Harry Beever
Kermit is all european trade going to cease and are those 3 million jobs going to be lost and 200,000 businesses go bust if we leave? Just suspicious that these statistics are spewed out by pro-european scare mongerers. I was in and the more I read the less sure I am. What started off as a trade agreement has evolved beyond recognition. Seems the big businesses are desperate to stay in but they don't really give much of a s*** about the man on the street. It surely can't just be a financial argument. I have a relatively poor understanding of the complexity of the argument and am probably in good company. The fog of spin makes it difficult to understand. The media seem to be very busy heralding the success of Cameron's negotiations without pointing out the failures. Is it true that despite all the negotiations the EU can turn around after the referendum and veto what has been agreed Answer the man, Micheal.
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Kermit8 Hevon 20 Feb 16 4.51pm | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I am curious to why you believe 'big business' on Europe but not on other matters. Please could you explain your thinking and the statistics you provide?
Now bore off and come back when you are less petulant and are able to stop projecting your own insecurities onto others.
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