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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 02 Oct 15 3.29pm
(sorry Carneiro) Aside from the fact that we all would (nothing to debate there) what do people think about the fallout of the touchline spat with Mourinho on the opening game of the season? Now I don't know exactly what Mourinho said in Portuguese, but from what I understand it was a load of expletives, and so I'm not sure that this is an equality issue and certainly not what the women's equality group (forget their name) was trying to make it out to be i.e. some sort of sexist outburst. Yes Mourinho was a bit of a harsh cnut, but men shout and swear at each other on the touchline and I expect he treated her like he would any other of his staff if he thought they slipped up (rightly or wrongly. [Link] Edited by Frickin Saweet (02 Oct 2015 3.30pm)
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(sorry Carneiro)

Aside from the fact that we all would (nothing to debate there) what do people think about the fallout of the touchline spat with Mourinho on the opening game of the season?

Now I don't know exactly what Mourinho said in Portuguese, but from what I understand it was a load of expletives, and so I'm not sure that this is an equality issue and certainly not what the women's equality group (forget their name) was trying to make it out to be i.e. some sort of sexist outburst. Yes Mourinho was a bit of a harsh cnut, but men shout and swear at each other on the touchline and I expect he treated her like he would any other of his staff if he thought they slipped up (rightly or wrongly.

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Stuk Top half 02 Oct 15 3.39pm
I'm so bored of this story. Nothing to do with sexism whatsoever and if he called her a name, as you would to a bloke doing the same, that further highlights that they want this to be treated as a special case, because she's a woman. That's sexism, whereas what Mourinho did is called a spade a spade. Edited by Stuk (02 Oct 2015 3.56pm) Optimistic as ever
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Top half 02 Oct 15 3.39pm

I'm so bored of this story. Nothing to do with sexism whatsoever and if he called her a name, as you would to a bloke doing the same, that further highlights that they want this to be treated as a special case, because she's a woman.

That's sexism, whereas what Mourinho did is called a spade a spade.

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npn Crowborough 02 Oct 15 3.44pm
Hard to know without knowing what he's alleged to have said, but if it's merely an insult largely directed at women, such as b1tch, sl@g, etc, then it's nothing. It's no more sexist than if he'd used an insult largely reserved for men like d1ckhead, c0ck, etc. He's not insulting her BECAUSE she's a woman. As for the case itself, he WAS a c0ck - she was doing what she is morally obliged to do - treating an 'injured' player when the ref asks her to (he should reserve his anger for Hazard)
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Crowborough 02 Oct 15 3.44pm

Hard to know without knowing what he's alleged to have said, but if it's merely an insult largely directed at women, such as b1tch, sl@g, etc, then it's nothing. It's no more sexist than if he'd used an insult largely reserved for men like d1ckhead, c0ck, etc.

He's not insulting her BECAUSE she's a woman.

As for the case itself, he WAS a c0ck - she was doing what she is morally obliged to do - treating an 'injured' player when the ref asks her to (he should reserve his anger for Hazard)

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 02 Oct 15 3.49pm
That's right, she chose to work in a predominately male high octane environment, she should expect to be treated like one of them. Haven't heard the physio complaining and he got the same treatment. Instead of whinging she should be questioning the wisdom of whether she was really suited to that job.
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Deurne Holland 02 Oct 15 3.49pm

That's right, she chose to work in a predominately male high octane environment, she should expect to be treated like one of them.

Haven't heard the physio complaining and he got the same treatment.

Instead of whinging she should be questioning the wisdom of whether she was really suited to that job.

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Beastie 02 Oct 15 3.51pm
Quote Stuk at 02 Oct 2015 3.39pm I'm so bored of this story. Nothing to do with sexism whatsoever, and if he called her a name as you would to a bloke doing the saem that further highlights that they want this to be treated as a special case, becuase she's a woman. That's sexism, whereas what Mourinho did is call a spade a spade. So it's racism.
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02 Oct 15 3.51pm

Quote Stuk at 02 Oct 2015 3.39pm

I'm so bored of this story. Nothing to do with sexism whatsoever, and if he called her a name as you would to a bloke doing the saem that further highlights that they want this to be treated as a special case, becuase she's a woman.

That's sexism, whereas what Mourinho did is call a spade a spade.

So it's racism.

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norwayeagle Trondheim 02 Oct 15 4.08pm
I've read somewhere that he said " daughter of a whore " ( in portugese ). That's totally unacceptable if true. She did her job, and by the rules of the game. Mourinho thinks he's beyond criticism.
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Trondheim 02 Oct 15 4.08pm

I've read somewhere that he said " daughter of a whore " ( in portugese ). That's totally unacceptable if true. She did her job, and by the rules of the game. Mourinho thinks he's beyond criticism.

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Stuk Top half 02 Oct 15 4.25pm
Quote norwayeagle at 02 Oct 2015 4.08pm I've read somewhere that he said " daughter of a whore " ( in portugese ). That's totally unacceptable if true. She did her job, and by the rules of the game. Mourinho thinks he's beyond criticism. No different to son of a bitch, which is very frequently used. Neither are taken as statements of fact. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 02 Oct 15 4.25pm

Quote norwayeagle at 02 Oct 2015 4.08pm

I've read somewhere that he said " daughter of a whore " ( in portugese ). That's totally unacceptable if true. She did her job, and by the rules of the game. Mourinho thinks he's beyond criticism.

No different to son of a bitch, which is very frequently used. Neither are taken as statements of fact.

Optimistic as ever

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Dougiecito In a dreamworld 02 Oct 15 5.44pm
I think we should sign her up. I know we have our new dr from Liverpool, but we need two fighting for each position. Talking of positions, I'd... Na, best not carry on!
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In a dreamworld 02 Oct 15 5.44pm

I think we should sign her up. I know we have our new dr from Liverpool, but we need two fighting for each position. Talking of positions, I'd... Na, best not carry on!

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black eagle. south croydon. 02 Oct 15 6.02pm
I feel sorry for Eva,she was sacked for doing her job. Yes she probably had banter with the players but if as rumoured mourinho insulted her then he should be punished not only by Chelsea but by the FA.
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south croydon. 02 Oct 15 6.02pm

I feel sorry for Eva,she was sacked for doing her job.

Yes she probably had banter with the players but if as rumoured mourinho insulted her then he should be punished not only by Chelsea but by the FA.

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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 02 Oct 15 6.33pm
Quote black eagle. at 02 Oct 2015 6.02pm I feel sorry for Eva,she was sacked for doing her job. Yes she probably had banter with the players but if as rumoured mourinho insulted her then he should be punished not only by Chelsea but by the FA. Study the video, she gave as good as she got if not better, and by the way she was not fired, she walked out.
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Deurne Holland 02 Oct 15 6.33pm

Quote black eagle. at 02 Oct 2015 6.02pm

I feel sorry for Eva,she was sacked for doing her job.

Yes she probably had banter with the players but if as rumoured mourinho insulted her then he should be punished not only by Chelsea but by the FA.

Study the video, she gave as good as she got if not better, and by the way she was not fired, she walked out.

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Qwijibo Bournemouth 02 Oct 15 9.30pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 02 Oct 2015 6.33pm Quote black eagle. at 02 Oct 2015 6.02pm I feel sorry for Eva,she was sacked for doing her job. Yes she probably had banter with the players but if as rumoured mourinho insulted her then he should be punished not only by Chelsea but by the FA. Study the video, she gave as good as she got if not better, and by the way she was not fired, she walked out. Good for her. She was doing her job. Jose was undermining her ability to put their players first. Not sure why you're defending Mourinho. She shouldn't have spoken out of turn, but clearly neither should he. JM is the catalyst of the fall out, at least EC's motives were in the right spirit of the game. JM seemed so convinced the player wasn't injured it was as if he suspected one of his players would feign injury...
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Bournemouth 02 Oct 15 9.30pm

Quote Sg Bilko at 02 Oct 2015 6.33pm

Quote black eagle. at 02 Oct 2015 6.02pm

I feel sorry for Eva,she was sacked for doing her job.

Yes she probably had banter with the players but if as rumoured mourinho insulted her then he should be punished not only by Chelsea but by the FA.

Study the video, she gave as good as she got if not better, and by the way she was not fired, she walked out.

Good for her. She was doing her job. Jose was undermining her ability to put their players first.

Not sure why you're defending Mourinho. She shouldn't have spoken out of turn, but clearly neither should he. JM is the catalyst of the fall out, at least EC's motives were in the right spirit of the game. JM seemed so convinced the player wasn't injured it was as if he suspected one of his players would feign injury...

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 02 Oct 15 9.37pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 02 Oct 2015 6.33pm Quote black eagle. at 02 Oct 2015 6.02pm I feel sorry for Eva,she was sacked for doing her job. Yes she probably had banter with the players but if as rumoured mourinho insulted her then he should be punished not only by Chelsea but by the FA. Study the video, she gave as good as she got if not better, and by the way she was not fired, she walked out. Constructive dismissal. Her position was made untenable. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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